[Dota2] – Beast Master – Fierce Warrior

Tvidotto

and the final images!

set link
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=111419268


Full Set



Fearless Hawk



Axes



Damaged Double Axe (shoulder)



Wild Boar





thx for everyone that commented and helped this set to be finished =]

Tvidotto

Hey guys!

im glad to enter the contest with all those good artist here, i hope we will create awesome itens for the game =]

for the last 3 months i passed creating some couriers to the workshop and for the contest i will do my best trying to make a better Best Master. One of my favorite heroes and one , imho, that could be improved a lot

here are my other works for the workshop
Silly Dragon Courier
Gatuja Courier
Death Bringer Courier

Ok, about the ideas, first some study over the model and lore


imho, the boar and the hawk could be alot improved and some details like the belt and that "scarf" on the shoulders of Karroch (the beast master)

there is nothing that force his style of armor and clothes in the lore, he is a beast master that rebelled against his king, and fled with an animal companion

i really like his body painting, specially on the face, that adds a lot to the character but could be used also on his pet

my first idea is to take off that "scarf" of the shoulder, i think he will appear much more fierce and savage with more of the shoulders showing, but he hasnt an usable mesh under that

so i will need to model the trapezium muscle and the connection with the shoulder, also match the texture, normal map and the pixel resolution

that will lead to another task, as they are set itens, they need to work without the other ones, so the head part need to fit that scarf and the shoulder need to fit with any head piece

the head piece hiddens a role on the "scarf"

i will need to take that in consideration in any of head pices, they need to cover this hole.

Tvidotto

Here are some concepts on the head piece, im still not sure if i should touch his hair, i really like it and it helps to create a good sillhouette on the dota´s view angle, but here are some ideas



i think that the skull helm fits better with the character, but im still not sure

thanks in advance for any suggestion

motenai

Lovely head concepts...i vote 6 & 7

bounchfx

yeah #6 is bad ass

Jalcober

Im liking #5!

Clyptic

5 or 6, I think 5 helm with 6 horns might look pretty good as well.

Tvidotto

Hey guys, really thanks for the suggestion, im making a google docs with the votes =]

its 8am here and i need to sleep, im destroyed

belt concepts

here i have the same problem like the scarf, i cant use the under model

so i need to cover it entirelly

some more concepts

i think he could carry one or two extra axes on the belt, the original horn doesnt make much sense since he is more like a lone warrior with his beast

TehSplatt

Very nice

Some Jerk

Number 4. I'm unable to resist a war kilt.

D4V1DC

Yea #4 kilt but your going in the direction of all horns if you also make that buckle.
Nice concepts otherwise.

Azaraen

01 and 04 "Pelvic Thrust Attack!"

I think 6 or 8 for the head. 8 looks more 'functional'. 6 kinda looks functional, but would prolly be a hassle in a fight or mobility. Might get stuck on stuff with it sticking so far out.

And I like 2 for body. Because since i chose horns for the helmet, it will be too much to have the same thing for his belt. I like the skull one, but the threads make it look like they got eyelashes. lol. #2 is more manly man.

Tvidotto

great guys, i will start to mix some options later this week

here are some ideas for the axe

D4V1DC

#4 or #5, I like 5 more.

I was going to say the dragon heads but everyone is trying to add in a dragon head.

Tvidotto

$!nz wrote: »

#4 or #5, I like 5 more.

I was going to say the dragon heads but everyone is trying to add in a dragon head.

thanks man

a friend suggested me to test a metalic skull on the axe, maybe that will fit better without being like the others

but i like too the cleaner ones, the 3,4 and 5

Tvidotto

here comes the fun part, the beast

on the game it says "boar" but the beast doesnt appear too much a boar and the lore does not define what the beast is
based on that i was planning on doing something more appealing, the first idea was a lion, the beast master dressed like a zulu warrior with a lion would work well

my girlfriend also did some sketches for me

after couple hours drawing i wasnt happy with the result and decided to change and start over, i started to go to something more like a boar, messed with some predator fangs and a couple random ideas. im still not tottally happy with this one but i like it much more then the lion idea =]



just something that i need to take in consideration is that it have a ranged attack, and even in game that doesnt make much sense but i cant change.
I need to create something visual that gives that idea that the beast could be ranged...

BenHenry

Freakin sweet!

Tvidotto

forget to say that the beast and the hawk will NOT be a reskin, i will rig and animate from scratch =]

Some Jerk

Boar 4 looks the most intense. I guess I'm a sucker for the twin braided mustache. Just consider throwing some green onto it to emphasis that it has a poison attack.

Tvidotto

Some Jerk wrote: »

Boar 4 looks the most intense. I guess I'm a sucker for the twin braided mustache. Just consider throwing some green onto it to emphasis that it has a poison attack.

nice idea with the green, i can try to give a more poisonous look to the boar =]

My Fault

Tvidotto wrote: »

forget to say that the beast and the hawk will NOT be a reskin, i will rig and animate from scratch =]

Well if anybody can pull this off, it'll be you!

I was curious though, how will you go about matching the original creatures animations?

Tvidotto

you dont need to match exactly, i will create new ones with the same "timing", i did other 3 couriers for the workshop fully animated
this one have less animation to do and will be easier =]

Tvidotto

some more ideas

Tvidotto

now something that i really like!

diegoleeon

i like the 5th helmet. and omg your silly dragon courier is awesome!
the boar is more wild than the default. GOOD WORK KEEP IT UP

Tvidotto

changed a lot of things from the concept...

testing it on the dota angle of view the concepted boar was too thin, this one looks better from above

Tvidotto

diegoleeon wrote: »

i like the 5th helmet. and omg your silly dragon courier is awesome!
the boar is more wild than the default. GOOD WORK KEEP IT UP

hey! thanks man. The dragon is entering the game in a future update, i cant wait to play with it =]

danidem

Tvidotto wrote: »

great guys, i will start to mix some options later this week

here are some ideas for the axe

owe'd you this, mr Vidotto. That sculpt is looking great!



I hope it helps, Cheers!

agentfx

sculpt is looking good and I like that axe tweak danidem.

Are you going to re-rig the boar to the default rig? that doesn't sound fun, hah!

Managor

Shoulders 01 has 3 and 4 that look the best.
For 02 I guess Everything is good.

Tvidotto

danidem wrote: »

owe'd you this, mr Vidotto. That sculpt is looking great!



I hope it helps, Cheers!

man, that was awesome =], thanks for the great help

@agentfx
thanks man

more or less, im going to create a new one, i will not use the default rig, that way i dont need to worry about matching the same proportions of the boar =]

@Managor, thanks for the help! im adding it to my list

Tvidotto

Hey guys

i worked on the axe and need some feedback, what you guys preffer?
any suggestion?




thanks

Clyptic

I like the top one, but I don't think a change this small will make much difference in the normal map.

Tvidotto

Clyptic wrote: »

I like the top one, but I don't think a change this small will make much difference in the normal map.

sorry, forgot to say that its just a rought sketch for the axe, there is still a lot to do, i was just not certain about the spikes and how to deal with that on the blade

Managor

Make the bottom part of the "fangs" so it's sharper. So it look more like it's supposed to cut and not only shred and bash.

Paskie

Looking good here Tvidotto! May i suggest two different axes if it is doable? I think it would look more unique if you have variation. Can you put glowing red eyes on boar? Keep up the good work!

Tvidotto

Paskie wrote: »

Looking good here Tvidotto! May i suggest two different axes if it is doable? I think it would look more unique if you have variation. Can you put glowing red eyes on boar? Keep up the good work!

uh nice idea paskie, i know that some heroes have two options for the axe, i will check the files tomorrow, thanks!

and yes, i can make the eyes of the boar glowing red =]

@managor
thats a goood idea, i will try that =] thanks

Tvidotto

Hey guys

just a little update, its too cartoony for now, Daniden already slapped my face with "it doenst work for dota" hehehe

there is some work on the concept to do =]

btw, thanks Danidem for beeing sincere

danidem

lol np!

Btw you should work the concept in a fly-pose. Actually the eagle is the only thing it does, so you should play a lot with the shapes of the wings to make it look different

Tvidotto

danidem wrote: »

lol np!

Btw you should work the concept in a fly-pose. Actually the eagle is the only thing it does, so you should play a lot with the shapes of the wings to make it look different

sure. i already asked my girlfriend for the drawing, she said that by tomorrow will be ready. for now im fighting with maya to export the axe and test ingame...

jwest

Chiming in a little late but I really like the idea of having an axe on his back for his back piece, I also like the shield, nice work.

Tvidotto

jwest wrote: »

Chiming in a little late but I really like the idea of having an axe on his back for his back piece, I also like the shield, nice work.

Thanks Jwest, i was almost going back to the concept phase for that item =]

DD-best-D

Fantastic well rendered concepts.

For the head concepts
I'm loving 5-8, it's difficult to choose but 7 would be my recommendation.

Belt concepts, 1 and 3 are a nice design while staying in style similar to the default belt, but more interesting.

Okoo

If i had to vote :

Helmet : 06 (sooo badass :poly123: )
Belt : 01 (and it perfectly fits the 06 helmet )
Axe : 05 (you are already working on it!)
Shoulders : 07 (the shield fits BM so much ! :poly115: )

And your boar is nice!

Tvidotto

DD-best-D wrote: »

Fantastic well rendered concepts.

For the head concepts
I'm loving 5-8, it's difficult to choose but 7 would be my recommendation.

Belt concepts, 1 and 3 are a nice design while staying in style similar to the default belt, but more interesting.

Thanks for the suggestions man =]

Tvidotto

yay! tested the axe´s sillhouette in game and is looking better then i expected =]

dArth

I like the boar, you made it look less like a predator. Good job !
I thought about some leather bands to hold the edge of the axe, for some RP and some stuff to add.

Tvidotto

trowing axes working too, they are another model with another bone and position configuration
anyone remembers if the axes disappears from the hand when using the ability?


ps: there is no texture yet, just some proxy color on the axe

Tvidotto

dArth wrote: »

I like the boar, you made it look less like a predator. Good job !
I thought about some leather bands to hold the edge of the axe, for some RP and some stuff to add.

Thanks dArth
that should be a good idea, i will test that later today =]

Spudnik

I think they disappear

AndrewHelenek

Hey Tvidotto, I'm expecting some awesome animations for those pets! cant wait to see the final product. :P