[Dota2] - Antimage - Return of the Cultist set

Hawt Koffee

It's finally complete!







see the collection here
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=109504892

scroll down for wip content!

It's about time I reworked my old antimage cult set I made way back in june.



These are all very old images
and as popular as the set was it's current state isn't all that fit for compiling
I'd rather start from scratch re-using the idea
here is an early sketch


I'll have some more refined concepts up soon

Hawt Koffee

Since these sets have to be completely original I'll have to really change up the designs for this set
I'd rather not risk disqualification

Hawt Koffee

Robe References





Mask References
Amon's mask looks too similar to the original mask design so I'll need to make some heavy changes

Hawt Koffee

very early mask designs

Jalcober

Damn Hawf you work quick!

Hawt Koffee

It'd be easier to do these if valve would hurry up and release antimages files
he IS on the list after all

UltraLrod

Nice. I'm digging the mask with the hood. Maybe something like Dishonor mask.

Some Jerk

I think the mask should keep the disapproving frown. It adds a lot of character to the mask.

Dark Acre Jack

I immediately thought of the Dishonored mask, too. The Skyrim source is a nice choice.

TripZ

Hawt Koffee wrote: »

Robe References





Mask References
Amon's mask looks too similar to the original mask design so I'll need to make some heavy changes

I am loving the 3rd mask, especially if you keep the very large hood. Makes it look very sinister and early-inquisition like.

Will be following this thread closely!

Hawt Koffee

Spudnik

His proportions seem off, his head and chest being way bigger than the feet.. What's going on?

Hawt Koffee

shot was taken in perspective
so he feet are a little smaller

Hawt Koffee

TMiuccio

I like the 3rd and 6th mask design! keep going

Hawt Koffee

JimoUK

I would do without the mask honestly, the hood and everything else is awesome.

jnumber9

that set looks very nice indeed!

Hawt Koffee

JimoUK wrote: »

I would do without the mask honestly, the hood and everything else is awesome.

the mask was the main reason I started working on this set back in march.
throwing that out would completely kill this for me

the mask stays

Spudnik

I agree, the mask really is the hook for this set.

duoxan

keep the mask, and second those 3rd and 6th masks

Hawt Koffee

Model progress
I'll also be streaming this tonight
http://www.livestream.com/hawfmakesthings

Hawt Koffee

Hawt Koffee

I got the glaives all finished but Antimage isn’t on the compiler list so I can’t test them

Damn it Valve you’re supposed to add the files and compiler scripts at the SAME TIME not a week apart

foeffa

Looks baller!

Spudnik

Yeah, those purple accents came out really nice! Great job, fantastic texture!

zenmode

I really like the "Silenced" mask concept, any reason you chose not to go with that?

Hawt Koffee

getting there
arms and belt are done now

also I didn't choose the original silence design
because antimage can't silence
logic

dArth

Hey, that's not in my intentions to annoy you, but think about the way antimage hits with his blade, have you tested it ? I think he hits with the edges just next to his hands, you might extend your blades or make spikes, whatever you want but make sure he will hit with them

Hawt Koffee

I felt like the belt and the bracers were too generic so I did a quick paint over to change them up a bit

marc31

Your mask is different but it reminds me of Marvel's Doctor Doom
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7funkWRdf1r04ja1o1_500.gif

Hawt Koffee

Frogress

Qwiggalo

Ribbit

Hawt Koffee

brought back the nose on the mask
now I need to fix the sculpt so it's not amon

Hawt Koffee

we're getting closer

Hawt Koffee

gonna need a LOT of texture work

Hawt Koffee

mask is still up for changes

Hellmouth

I don't think the two colours on the jacket really work that well (the purple patch on the top of it) mostly because they're fairly similar tones and will just blur in-game. It's likely either you remove the more saturated purple, or give it a defining edge so it stands out.

Hawt Koffee

Nearing the final pass

Pina

Cool!

Hawt Koffee

I am really sick of this compiler tool
no way to update the model in real-time, re-importing doesn't update it so I have to close dota and reopen it and root through all the folders again because it doesn't remember directories
not only that but I find my rigging looks absolutely abysmal when I finally recompile
and it just seems impossible to get his arms to do what I want them to because of how he's animated
this is really discouraging as it's the ONLY item in the set that's currently not working
all the other items are fine in the import tool
THIS is the only thing holding me back

aivanov

Sorry to hear about all the hardship Hawt, I can suggest this: To work around the real-time updating issue, I use the Alien Swarm viewer to view the models while I'm rigging/texturing them. I simply compile the item for TF2 (using a barebones .qc), and use SyncToy to copy the compiled .MDL from TF2's files to my Dota 2 work directory. It takes a bit of setup, but once you have it, all it takes to see changes is three/four clicks after any changes I make: export from modeling program, compile, run SyncToy, and finally refresh the model viewer.

Far from intuitive, but much, much faster than re-importing to the compile tool every time.

Hawt Koffee

what's even worse is that I have to re-rig the high poly since it only previews the low poly ingame.
valve you made this much harder by forcing us to do it your way
at least make the existing tools a little less tedious
a larger view port and hero portrait preview would be nice

Hawt Koffee

this decision is ultimately for the best
the rigging can be easily fixed and the 10% of orange in his colour palette is back
not counting the head

Pina

I feel your pain with the problems you mentioned dude.
This character is looking really good and orginality is always great to see. Kudos.

Chemical Alia

Hawt Koffee wrote: »

what's even worse is that I have to re-rig the high poly since it only previews the low poly ingame.
valve you made this much harder by forcing us to do it your way
at least make the existing tools a little less tedious
a larger view port and hero portrait preview would be nice

It's better than what they had before the preview tool, which was nothing at all. I'm not sure how having the tool makes things harder than before, or prevents you from trying to get it in-game some other way (like re-compiling your model over existing ones like with TF2) or using a different SDK.

Sure, it's confusing and a little buggy, but at least you'll know it's going to work properly if you get it set up right It's just something everyone has to make time to deal with.

About the sleeve rigging problem, why don't you post a screenshot of your topology?

Hawt Koffee

importing animations is helping a bit with the rigging but I'm finding it's conflicting with my other changes

here's my topology at the moment

aivanov

Sometimes it hepls to change your items' topology to conform that of the base mesh you're building on top of (i.e. maintain your existing silhouette and profile, but simply move the vertices around) - has helped annoying rigging errors in the past, as then you're mirroring the vertices the original animator worked with.

Hawt Koffee

I have hit another snag



the rigging preview in blender is different than the importer preview
I think this may be because I am using the animations from the old antimage model rather than the new one
and my decompiler tools always crash when I try to decompile something so I cant decompile the new ones.
if anyone can send me the animation smd's I would be VERY greatful

aivanov

Hope these work for you: LINK

Hawt Koffee

they're still the same in blender
this mean the importer is some how altering the bone weights
ugh this isn't going to be fun
it's like I'm the only one running into this problem
everyone else seems to be able to rig their models flawlessly