[WIP] ArenaNet character art test Norn

guhhh

Hey all...

i've started my character as well... im still blocking him


I have a few questions, is 6500 tris with ou without the weapon? It's also a great concept for study ;D

Soon i will post images

guhhh

I think the proportion is done, now i'm starting to detail everything.

guhhh

link: https://vimeo.com/44171674

embed:
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little bit of timelapse

FullSynch

"This video does not exist."

guhhh

i'm trying to understand why...

FullSynch

Nice! Do you know how many hours you've put in? Also, what do you use to record?

guhhh

thanks fullsynch, took about 8 houts until now with this small update.
To record i used Zbrush timelapse.

Update before bed:

ysalex

Looking very nice. I like the way you do blockouts, and I think you got the proportions down. I model anatomy like you, etching the surface lines and then bulking with the clay brushes, not sure at all where I picked that up. Also is that the silo man basemesh? What modeling program are you working out of?

guhhh

ysalex, Im using an old simple basemesh, and 3dsmax and topogun to create the minor pieces. I've learned sculpting that way with alex oliver when him was my zbrush teacher a few years ago.

guhhh

Update... still have lot of pieces to do ..still blocking all pieces to start detailing.

Torch

Only have one thing to say about this so far:

It blows my mind.

Rhoutermans

Torch wrote: »

Only have one thing to say about this so far:

It blows my mind.

this. and:

Thank you for posting

ysalex

Damn you are moving quick. Well done too.

guhhh

thanks for the comments,

more updates on the model. Now i'm gonna eat a pizza ;D

garriola83

lookin awesome so far

Pancakes

I've been watching other people's arenanet tests and I think yours matches the concept the most closely out of the ones that I'm aware of

gl!

guhhh

thanks for the comments, i'm working on high poly, probaly tonight or until sunday i will post the high poly

guhhh

update
now i have the entire weekend to work on this model!! Hope to finish high poly until sunday

guhhh

Hi,

i'm really enjoying working on this model! I worked in the fur and detailing more parts. Still a lot to do! But let's goo!

ablaine

That's looking fantastic. Great attention to detail so far! How'd you do the celtic symbol on the girdle piece?

katana

Nice work so far. I started the fur the same way you did, but after an LP test and some xnormal stuff, I could see it wasnt going to work without alot more geo (waste)...I ended up doing the same thing you did in the end, though your's looks better.:)

guhhh

Thanks,

ablaine i used Topogun to create this details, with the curtavure ok, exported an obj with texture to topogun and did the small details. I've watched to do this in the site of stoofoo , you should watch how he does! http://somuchmonsters.com/GW2-Shield-pt-1-Modeling

ambitious_nomad

Love the detail. I am working on the same guy but I don't have crap for time though. I don't even know what the cut off date is.

In any case can't wait to see the low poly and the finished product.

AimBiZ

Hey hey, this is coming along really nicely. Might wanna put in a bit more bevel on those straps to make them pop more in the normal map.

guhhh

quick update while i'm working on other parts

AimBiZ - thanks for the advice, i'll work on that.

parodice29

its Looking really nice, so much going on its a treat for the eyes!

leslievdb

very nice progress,
crit on the details is that you have to watch out with those sharp edges, for this one you're going to have to bake a lot of stuff flat so it needs to be rounded quite a bit on the edges.
You can actually already see it on this screenshot
http://i.imgur.com/OBNlW.jpg

The carved details on that chestplate arn't readable because they are too sharp

anyway good job and gl

ablaine

guhhh wrote: »

Thanks,

ablaine i used Topogun to create this details, with the curtavure ok, exported an obj with texture to topogun and did the small details. I've watched to do this in the site of stoofoo , you should watch how he does! http://somuchmonsters.com/GW2-Shield-pt-1-Modeling

Awesome, I'll check it out! Thanks. And good luck!

rabieart

very good improvement dude

woogity

raven has a good point you need to add bevels to all of those hard surfaced edges or the bakes will come out pretty rough. Coming along very nice so far keep on it!

guhhh

While i'm thinking how to make his back, i've started playing with low geometry and testing the head tris. Here is a quick tests with simmetry (later will be full head with the scars and details)

guhhh

High poly done!! Now i need to hurry with retopology that i have started yesterday ...

AimBiZ

Still think you need to add bevels to those straps and not just rounding the edges. Also think you should make those detail lines on the chest and belly armor pieces bigger as I can barely see them even when looking at your image at full size. Those details will definitely not come out in the bake.

Nice work so far though. Some pretty massive work you've done with the fur. Won't that be a nightmare for the lopoly to fit in? If you got the time I'd strongly suggest you'd make tiling fur instead and then add it on the full character normal map. I can see all the fur patches you got now pretty easily translatable to tubes for that job.

Felixenfeu

Insane work here. One of the best Male Norm i've seen so far. But i've got the same critic that AimBiZ told you. Thoses details sculpt are way too small, you gonna loose all this on your bake, and you loose already alot just on this screengrab because they are too small/not smooth enough. Try working more on this, and this will be one hell of a piece !

guhhh

AimBiZ wrote: »

Still think you need to add bevels to those straps and not just rounding the edges. Also think you should make those detail lines on the chest and belly armor pieces bigger as I can barely see them even when looking at your image at full size. Those details will definitely not come out in the bake.

Nice work so far though. Some pretty massive work you've done with the fur. Won't that be a nightmare for the lopoly to fit in? If you got the time I'd strongly suggest you'd make tiling fur instead and then add it on the full character normal map. I can see all the fur patches you got now pretty easily translatable to tubes for that job.

I are right Ambiz, i will work more carefully on the chest to solve that hard edges, and thanks for the tips, and looking the chest wolf need to be bigger...
also thanks felixenfeu for your tips as well, i will work on.

guhhh

EDIT: still have 80 tris to put on this model.

Update:

guhhh

Quick update

There is no spec yet...working on diffuse.

artstream

I love the colors you chose. And I think your fur baked out very well, good luck with a strong finish!

AimBiZ

Hm, I don't think you should put leopard fur on him, looks off with the northern theme he's got going on.

rabieart

i really like the zbrush snapshot

Di$array

Yeah I agree with AimBiZ on the leopard fur, it really knocks the whole thing apart. Personally I'd look into wolf or snow Leopard's for the fur.

guhhh

Thanks for the feedback guys,

artstream, i had to re-organize the uvs to get more detail on the head and other parts, i'm almost finishing the bakes with polypaint. Tomorrow or friday i will post the final model, finally!

Di$array and AimBiZ , at the first time i saw this detail, i got confused but i've searched more and it's true. He has a leopard coat, references:concept+ingame screen

AimBiZ

I see, looks like they're going for snow leopard though, although they can have some warmer colours in their fur as well it seems. It jumped out as african to me at first anyway.

Caldria

Looks good so far guhhh - not sure how much further you've gotten on the diffuse, but maybe try to add in a little more colour to make what you have now a bit richer, if you haven't done so already.

Also, regarding the snow leopard fur - the norn ingame worship the animal spirits, snow leopard being one of them. So I'd say it is pretty much a sure thing that the front loincloth is supposed to be from that.

GL with the rest, looking forward to the finish ^^

guhhh

Thanks Caldria and Aimbiz, this reference looks nice! i'm trying to follow this color scheme.

Refining small details, almost finish finally!

guhhh

Here is my final entry, i'm pretty satisfied with the result.
Presentation:


Turnable Version: http://postimage.org/image/z3wtuevwf/

Textures:


Wireframe:

woogity

might consider toning down the bloom a bit in the final render it looks a little blown out in the head and hair area. also might want to address that seam on the back of the arm.

hope it helps!

-Woog

achillesian

The diffuse on fur looks really bad. You need a lot more color variation, blonde highlights etc. on it.

Your low poly pretty much butchers the silo too. Looking at the concept I don't see how this character could be done competently without the use of alpha planes.

Good sculpt though.

guhhh

thanks for the feedback guys..

achillesian , your are right about the color variation and the planes, its was a low count tris, and this is my 3rd low character finished, i'm still learning about the bakes and better way to nail the concept using a low poly count, hope i do much better on the next one.

hey woogity, now i see the seam, i will adjust that and the bloom exposure, thanks man...