Hooray, more art theft.
polycounter lvl 11
So, if this is in bad taste, just let me know and close the thread. But at my alma mater's portfolio review, this student decided to use work from a pretty well known MMO as their own.
http://rebeccaprice.webs.com/pricedigitalartthief.htm
The name is pretty ironic in itself. They caught it, but I just wanted to let people be advised in case the proper channels aren't followed through with the school in letting people know that this happened.
http://rebeccaprice.webs.com/pricedigitalartthief.htm
The name is pretty ironic in itself. They caught it, but I just wanted to let people be advised in case the proper channels aren't followed through with the school in letting people know that this happened.
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Cutout filter does not stop our friendly neighborhood TinEye, which uses pattern recognition algorithms to find similar looking images.
More:
http://www.tineye.com/search/04d7f59da0e041333f4eeeec72bda12181f96e86/
The cut out filter on the windows wallpaper :poly122:
lol since when...
What exactly did she steal?
looks like AIP hasnt changed a bit...I wonder how many grand she is in the hole for that portfolio
Beyond the silly background image above, this is from Ragnarok Online, an MMO that came out like 10 years ago.
the real one:
Yea, that's the main reason I posted that to show that not all people with a Bachelor's in Game Art have low scruples: there are other users on here that do awesome work and have made quite a name for themselves, with the same degree. It's just that the online version seems to be a bit more...lax.
But yeah, PC Witch-hunt's with the best of them, but usually when it's deserved, i.e. plagiarism, especially blatant plagiarism(and it involves our own members), we love that shit.
Ah, didn't realize that was the stolen material, didn't recognize it, wow.
The rest of her portfolio isn't shocking, there are AI's all over the place churning out these types of candidates... You throw up a lil in your mouth and move on.
That portfolio will not get her a job...80k well spent ..that should be punishment enough lol
Was it AIP? Or just an AI?
edit: NVM, "Online division". Completely different than AIP, the brick and mortar school.
another pic...Slum the one you posted not showing up
Yup. Online division degree does not equal the one you earn on ground.
And those that see their mistake, take the stuff down, come to terms with where they are at and start working hard to get where they want to be. These types should be cautiously watched and encouraged to keep working legit.
Greetings and salutations! My name is Rebecca Price. I am a graduate of the Art Institute of Pittsburgh, Online Division with a bachelor's degree in Game Art & Design.
is what she said on her about me thing..I wonder if the online is any cheaper
I dont know...my AIP degree was pretty worthless..the resume class was ok though
Personally, I'd like them to change the name from AIP: Online to AIO. Just make it Art Institute Online. No need to put "Pittsburgh" in there. ><
+1 to making it AIO. But Pittsburgh was the first one and it spawned from the Pittsburgh campus so...>.<
Yeah Pitt is an awesome town..no need to associate it with ripping off suckers
These frauds really should learn to use TinEye for all the images they decide to steal, just in case they are used in 100s of other sites like this kitten; http://www.tineye.com/search/0b7d5beac470d2df48ae4130b1d34d57c976c61e/
Just read the resume..
I could be wrong however. :x
it was a shitty thing to do yeah, but you're more or less giving a 2 year'ish career death sentence, which is a lot of time for problems to pile up for someone. there's a reason you didn't get put in jail when you got caught stealing that Oh Henry from the convenience store. this person should certainly be punished in one way or another, but just as she may have not been aware of the weight of her actions, you guys should think about the weight of your actions as well.
mob justice is nothing to pride your community in.
Anyhoo. He started a campaign against art theft. Thought I'd share.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=116235051725808&ref=mf
Like one of the best selling manwha authors of all time...
I mean you can buy his work from TokyoPop in english
http://www.tokyopop.com/product/1046
Ragnarok Online also got made into an anime. O_o
There are plenty other careers to choose from were you to; with full awareness of your doings, use artwork that wasn't yours and get caught.
We're talking about adults here.
do what you will tho. it's just my misguided 2 cents.
Honestly I think every single person who rats out a theif in the industry should be damn proud because:
1. Hopefully the theif sees their mistakes and makes some serious changes.
2. Might save a company from trouble.
3. You keep the shit out and the talent in.
Oh well, I guess some of the blame is to put on how the school is run too. I don't imagine there are game art/design schools where the teachers are strict and they whip your art into excellence, where failure equals being kicked out.
Another thing that hit me though, I can't believe the school actually let that pass.
Yeah gonna chip in on that and say as someone studying a BA(hons) in Computer Games Modelling and Animation that that entire "plagarism is bad" thing is drilled into your head from day one. It might not be the same everywhere, but i honestly can't wrap my head round someone thinking that doing that is acceptable in any way.
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Looking at her resume I think you can tell she got into this thinking it would be an easy fast-track to success sort of field. There are a lot of sources out there telling people it's easy to be a game dev. I'm sure the online college was doing the same... I mean hell she had almost a 4.0.
I'm guessing she graduated realized she had nothing, applied to some of the companies in the booming Texas game area, realized she was ill-prepared and this wasn't all it was cracked up to be in terms of ease and decided to try to cheat.
Only people in this field aren't idiots.
I almost feel sad for her. Like that stripper that got the game design degree with a crap portfolio and got good grades. Only all her work was legit.
But then again, it's how you use what you've got. If yoinking other peoples' art into your portfolio is what you've got, well...
You said it yourself, art thieves need some kind of punishment to let them realize the weight of their actions. A thread on a forum like Polycount is exactly that.
People can step up and make a sincere apology and realize their mistakes and go on to become a better artist and a better person. 1 or 2 emails directed at the person can easily go unheard or won't have much impact, but a thread like this will certainly be enough motivation to make that change.
Of course people can also choose to ignore the "mob" and continue to steal. That is when the popcorn is appropriate since they obviously don't care about their reputation.
I somehow doubt that the individual in question even knows about or visits Polycount based on the lack of judgment on the art theft issue and also the quality of the work presented.
Just sayin...
They do know because I've emailed every one of them when I see a thread like this to hopefully make them more aware.
Most don't bother replying to me though, but at least I tried.
people entering these schools are adults, they are 18. sure they might still be stupid and juvenile but they are adults never the less. they should know better. no fuck that, they do know better they just choose to ignore it and for that they dont deserve any leeway.
in America, at the start of every class from at least middle school through high school you have to go over a syllabus in class that goes over what will be taught that year, what you need to bring, how to work out sick days and the overall rules you must adhere too. plagiarism is ALWAYS listed and AlWAYS mentioned. even if you dropped out of high school at some point you still know stealing others work is WRONG. hell in high school I had 6 classes a semester and in each of those classes they all had to go over the syllabus.
shit I mean most of these people I believe were at the age to watch Aladdin growing up and they were about to cut off his hand after he stole that apple. kids these days know plagiarism and stealing is wrong and some choose to ignore it.
criminals don't get a free pass and people who steal art are criminals and should be treated like so.
in conclusion....BURN THE WITCH! BURN HER! I'm just kidding. But seriously I'm not.
That's very good of you. I hope they have learned from the experience and moved on to become better artists and people.
I guess AI Online courses are just that lax. I know people on campus who work extremely hard and still fail Pre-portfolio class. This girl should not have made it this far -- there's no excuse for ignoring the obvious inconsistency in her work. Especially with tools like TinEye as someone else has mentioned here. Artists who like to draw manga-style have a bad enough reputation as it is. Come on!
On a side note, nice to meet you Polycount! I registered a while back but have been busy with freelance work. I graduate in two quarters so I'm looking forward to joining the challenges here and stuff so I can push my 3D skills as far as I can by then. Weird time to introduce myself, but oh well!
I was a huge noob back in high school, I somehow landed an internship at a cg visualization place and was told I could get paid to do this type of stuff. I immediately dropped my engineering prep classes and searched for a school that would let me in asap. I ended up at Westwood college
Most searches about whether or not Westwood was worth it ended up rather dry.
Long story short, too many people get fucked over by these type of classes, I guess they feel good and accomplished at what they have done, but as soon as they see some art like what gets pumped through polycount, they get... nervous, I guess. Nervous that the 80k they are in debt to now hasn't and will not ever help them get a job, so they try to get ahead in any way possible.
Not saying what she did was acceptable, but, I can kind of feel where these people are coming from. Just look at her resume, 6 years of fast food managerial experience...
I'd start to get worried at that point too..
(btw, I have never nor will I ever steal art, just saying
Edit:
and yozora: that is awesome of you to do that. Otherwise threads like these would be pointless.
When you burn the witch you get her possessions, thus making you the witch because she stole thole possessions.
The cycle continues.
What she did isn't right, I rather post art that looks like shit... It just feels better when you try hard and get better, then you can show off in pride.
Lets not forget that some people have learning difficulties or other such problems. Its not an excuse and they need to be taught that its wrong. Just thought i'd mention it.
BTW: I don't think its the case with this particular art thief. But it might be in others.