Garrison - Battle Chasers fan art/ Hand painted

Nomad33

Hi guys,

After my work on Varian Wrynn ( https://www.artstation.com/artwork/BVPAr ) I decided to work again on the hand paint textures.. I really want to improve myself so I started to work on Garrison from Battle Chasers.
I'm a big fan of Joe Madureira so I'll try to do my best on this project.
I'll use 3ds Max, 3D coat (for the first time) and Photoshop. Any critics are welcome, as I said, I want to improve myself on this style.

I finished the model and the uvs..





Now I'll start to work on the textures with 3D Coat I hope you'll like it guys !
Cheers !

Mateus

Cool! Looking forward for the textures.

Nomad33

Hey guys,

I started to work on the textures with 3D Coat. That the first time and I just love this soft ! So here the head texture of Garrison.
Cheers ( the ears are not finished )

Thessera

Nice work!

Mateus

Nice! 

gfelton

Awesome work!

MichaelF

Looks great!

Ged

really cool so far, this is gonna be good! I think his mouth and chin area could be a little wider/fuller and nose a little smaller to match the concept more. Joe mad does small noses and wide mouths haha.  

Nomad33

Thanks all :proud:

@Ged I agree with you for the face but I take some face screen of Garrison and his face looks more "elongated" I'll try to modify this !

I start to work on the metal and gold parts but I need advice.. Make more variations ?

Cordero

looks cool so far! what I would suggest is to decide on a light source, and paint the model accordingly! that way, you can turn the forms in space with the texture really nicely, for example the shoulder armors could look like they are being lit from above, and you could feel their roundness. Also with the face, try and find the different planes of the face, for example the side of the face could become darker ( around the jaw and temple area ) that way it could feel more 3D! also you can play around with the reflections where to materials gets close to each other, for example on the shoulderpads, you could bounce the light between the golden parts and the metalic parts aswell. overall you are heading in the right direction, and I think you could push the shapes and materials even more realitvely quickly! it's a messy overpaint, all stages mixed in one... I tried to show each thing I talked about, sadly I didn't have time to "finish" an area but I think you will get the overall idea! 
keep up the good work, and best of luck to you

here is a gif that might help:

Nomad33

@Cordero wow a big thanks to you !

I'll keep this treasured gif for my work ! I'll consider your advice, thanks again !

Sebeuroc

Looking good so far @Nomad33! Joe Mad is and awesome and the model is looking solid. I'd suggest pushing some of the forms in the cloth, specifically around the neck and legs. Maybe pop the sleeve cuffs out a bit more around the biceps too? It would help capture some more of the energy/angularity from the concept.

Anyway, great work so far! I look forward to seeing more.

8-Bit

This is awesome looking. Can't wait to see the full character.

Nomad33

Hey, thanks @8-Bit , I'll post an update soon

Nomad33

Update I need to work a lot on the metal part, I'm not really satisfied. I'll start to rework the part with the awesome correction of @Cordero. Can not wait for this weekend to work more on this guy

Natland

Hey, I would cut down some of the saturation all together and make the colours slightly more harmonious. I'd pick a focal point and try to paint towards that. Also try turning your texture to grayscale, I have a feeling that all your tones are the same, try to separate them a bit and you will have better results. 

Handpainting is fun though! Good luck! Can't wait to see where you go with this!

Jaykrass

Natland said:

Hey, I would cut down some of the saturation all together and make the colours slightly more harmonious. I'd pick a focal point and try to paint towards that. Also try turning your texture to grayscale, I have a feeling that all your tones are the same, try to separate them a bit and you will have better results. 

Handpainting is fun though! Good luck! Can't wait to see where you go with this!

I think he's doing pretty good, the shoulders plates are a bit off-putting though.

pmiller001

I agree with @Natland

Compared to the concept, homeboy is looking bright! I figure turn it down, (saturation) if you're trying to match those colors too. 

SeveredScion

Just popping in to say nice work. I love Joe Mad's art and this is a nice representation, keep at it!

Nomad33

@Natland --> Thanks dude for your feedback Can you tell me if I can turn my textures to grayscale on 3D Coat ? I'm new on it and I'm not quite familiar with the soft..

Thanks all for your support !

Nomad33

Hey everyone,

It is time to put an update ! I continued on my free time but there are still a lot of things to change (the metal parts again and again ^^)

I have not yet finished the legs and I would have to start the hair!

@jarsef --> Thanks dude for your advice and your gif ! Something bothers me, do not you think the bags are too dark on your gif? I would like to use the least amount of black!

Here the update


I started to model his weapon too

I now finished working on the legs, rework all parts properly and add dirt..

Thanks for watching !

Ged

its looking pretty good, very neat thats for sure! Personally I think you may have lost quite a lot of the angular joe mad style, the silhouette is looking rather smooth and soft. Also his proportions arent as heroic as the concept, for example his shoulders should be further apart, his torso more of a v shape.

Pixelatedkiwi

For some reason I've only just seen your thread >.> I think there is some really cool stuff on him I like and overall your doing a good job, your painting is improving from your first character for sure  
I really feel like some big areas that would help push this to the next level is more chunkiness and aggressiveness in your shapes, don't be scared to use some extra polys to achieve this as it'll really pay off.  Bringing more thickness/depth into your metal trims and plates and angularity into areas of the cloth are good quick ways to achieve this.  
The battle fatigue on the armor and etched runes are a good example of where you can be more bold with the aggressiveness too.  
For the painting itself, try to get the values brightest at the top of the character and darkest at the feet, lowering the contrast in the lower value areas also helps too.  You want to ideally be able to blur your eyes and see the most contrast and higher values/saturation around the head/shoulders (if that's your focal point).

I did a super quick PO to help illustrate what I mean, hope its helpful.  Looking forward to seeing more from you keep up the good work man

Nomad33

Hey !

@Ged --> Thanks for your advice dude ! For the proportions, I'm agree with you, I think I'll reduce hips...Like that, his torso will have the v shape.

@Pixelatedkiwi --> Thanks man ! First, I'm a big fan of your works, your creations have given me want to make handpaint textures so thanks for your advices and your paintover. It's going to help me a lot!
With your PO, I can see that my work is much too clean.. As @Ged said, I need to give more angular parts but if I add some poly for the modification, it will not "break" my uvs ? (I talk about the red scarf)
I'll start to modify my model first (arms, gold parts..) and see after if I could add more poly!
Thanks again for your PO, I see what you mean about the metal parts too and this is very helpful!

Nettle

I feel that his boots and arms are a bit too bright, they are a bit distracting and my eye doesn't know where to rest. maybe tone down the value a bit on his lower half and make his face/ upper torso the focus. 
It's turning out well by the way, keep it up. 

bobmartien

Really great, I love it

Ulkhror

Can't wait to see the final result!
Great work already!

PS: Je n'ai pas pu m'empecher de déjà tweeter ton travail!
Mais je retweeterai quand il sera terminé!

frame_first

Good start, i think it`d be better to finish this model as it is and to start another one) First - you should pay more attention for the silo.

Upd.  Ups, Sorry, one mistake, i wanted to sleep... ) Your character has another face and i think you can fix it without any help, just take some rest and look closer

Nomad33

Hey guys,

I haven't posted anything for a few weeks because unfortunately I am on standby at work level. My graphic tablet is completely dead ..

So I just wait for the new tablet is delivered

I can show you the beginning of the changes that I have given but nothing impressive!



@frame_first --> Thanks dude for your advice ! I'll listen you and try to arrange the model!

Ged

looking much better already

artofmars

The metal and the fabric look so much better! awesome work!

Nomad33

Hey guys,
I think it's time to post the last update of the project,

So what can I say about it ...
-I worked on the metal parts and the blue fabric
-Tone down the value a bit on his lower half

-Modify the gold parts

But for me, the character stay too clean again so I'll contiue to work on it and modify the model as @frame_first said.

Thanks !

Dragonar

You did a really nice work on it so far ! Keep it up dude !

Nomad33

Hey everyone,

I started working on a pose, this is very simple but it's temporary... I'd like to do more in action.
Here is an overview!

I also started texturing the sword.

Still WIP but the end is coming!

Nomad33

Finish

All reviews are welcome ! Thanks for all your feedbacks guys, you're awesome !

More views and better quality on my artstation

Mateus

I like it a lot! Great work! 

Nomad33

Thanks @Mateus ! Glad you like it ! I love your works !

Wendy de Boer

Very nice job!

le0tard

very nice!

Nomad33

@Wendy de Boer  @le0tard ---> thanks a lot guys ! Glad you like my work !
I'll post other view soon

JamesMeader

Really solid progress and outcome, well done!

Nomad33

Thanks @JamesMeader

Nomad33

Hey everyone !
Battle Chasers Nightwar is here and damn ! This game is just awesome ! Really good job from Airship Syndicate !
So I decided to make an other character after Garrison and now, it's time to start Alumon
So here you can see the first pass of the model, done with 3Ds Max
All reviews are welcome, I hope you'll like my work
Cheers !

Nomad33

Hey guys,
Update for Alumon ! Uvs are done and I started the texturing on 3d Coat !

Nomad33

Piemaster

Just wanted to pop in say, loving this thread
Great work!

Nomad33

Hey, thanks @Piemaster , glad you like my thread

Nomad33

Still working on Alumon
I start to work on the gold parts..
I have trouble defining a light source so any help are welcome !

frame_first

Hey man, looks nice. I`m not sure is it good idea to tell how i did it. Just.. i know - to make mistakes in proportions is very easy. I do these mistakes every day and in this case i do few things. 1. check my model immediately in 3d coat - do projection... or 2.  i just project texture to plane and cut it. Hope it`ll help.
  

frame_first

DON`T STOP! I did the same mistakes and the best thing is go on

frame_first

Actually one more thing. Can i use one of you picture? Few sites asked me to write the article about creation character for BC. I just want to show one of the common mistake... pleeeeeeeease!!