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Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Thanks for going through this twice with me, I think I got a better understanding now. I guess best is if I try to apply it and go from there. I have looked at your .obj and those two supporting edges are something I'll keep in mind and try around with. However, your mesh seems to be messed up by some importing-issue, have… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Yeah that's better. What you're doing with sub-d is preparing for the subdivided mesh while managing a lower amount of geometry. Take for example the bent U metal bar that connects the body of the gun to the stock. That's currently highpoly. If you realise the bend needs to be longer or something like that, how will you… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Thank you for your quick and helpful reply! I get the basic drift now and will try to hone this quote in the future. However - how would you put a hole into a place, where there are either multiple polys already or as in my case a quad that is not square. I created a square plane for the hole and put it into the basemesh,… -
N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Good day everyone, so, I'm not that new to 3D modeling and 3dsmax, but some questions arose while following along a rather non-enlightening tutorial about modeling an Ingram Mac10 (random part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAKJsEIKFU It includes some holes and bevels and especially when creating those, the instructor is… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
So I didn't watch the video but: For 'clean' meshes: Doesn't really mean anything. N-gons are for working. Triangulation has to happen at some stage; if you're baking a normal map you do so before that, otherwise it will get triangulated when it gets taken into whatever engine you use. Triangulating a mesh while you work… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Sorry, I was not clear with my descriptions. Low poly just meant one seperate mesh of the gun model, which in contrast to other individual, non welded parts, is not sub-divided. It contains a hole however, which would need smoothing. So for the sake of saving on edge loops and more polys, I'd leave everything as is, just… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
First image: For a highpoly it doesn't really matter. The square around the hole is unecessary but it's not exactly 'wrong'. There's also no need to connect those parts so completely with the rest of the mesh. Look at how n-gons behave when you've got subdivision (turbosmooth) applied. That should give you an idea of when… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Thank you very much for your time and effort again, Bek! I have changed the image hoster and could now show the images in their correct size, have a look. I understood the basic concept of smoothing (smoothing groups, smooth modifier) and smoothing by subdivision (turbosmooth, meshsmooth). Question is: If I have a low poly… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Okay, your proper version now is indeed proper. Meshsmooth gives the expected result without errors, while, just for the record, Turbosmooth still produces these strange shading issues at the edges. I will look into this, maybe there's something to learn. Of course I imported the obj myself to check, but it did not give me… -
Re: N-Gons and bevels/chamfers with circular holes
Yep. The thing is, with more complicated meshes you'll be making adjustments all the time, so it's not always practical to go from blockout to both high and low. Unless you start with the 'detailed' blockout/midpoly working mesh. Generally people use the more linear blockout > high > low workflow. Yep. Blocking things out…
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