[ QUOTE ] But God isn't determining it; the robber is. Regardless of whether or not he knows the future (a word and concept that only applies to our 3D world), the robber was the one who made the choice to do it. I don't understand how knowledge of an event causes the event to happen. [/ QUOTE ] It doesn't... but we're not…
[ QUOTE ] Yeah, but the big difference is I can prove whether you do or do not exist, and so can anyone. Proving God does or does not exist will forever be impossible, at least for me. Which is why I don't try to prove or disprove God's existence. I personally don't believe in God, I'm not religious nor am I spiritual even…
I don't think Spiritual threads are a good idea they always get ugly and offend a lot of people . On that note I believe in GOD but not religion. It has been my observations in Amature Astronomy and my study of cosmology the sheer symmetry of the Galaxy and the Universe and the forces at work within that have convinced my…
[ QUOTE ] Maybe God isn't a creator. He's an organizer. [/ QUOTE ] True, that is a possibility... but if that's what you believe, then that would make you a deist and not a theist (there's nothing wrong with that, of course). [ QUOTE ] Matter and the universe are two different things. [/ QUOTE ] Well, the universe is…
[ QUOTE ] My comments were only in regard to that particular reason, and not to any other reasons which it may lead to. But I'd also like to respond to your comment about "finding truth," since you brought it up. Faith and objective truth are mutually exclusive. If you know something to be true (e.g. 2 + 2 = 4), then it…
I find people claiming "scientific evidence" of God to be quite interesting. For God to exist, he has to exist in a dimension beyond ours. This means that most likely there will never be any actual scientific proof of his existence unless he willingly creates an event to demonstrate his existence. Think of it as we are on…
[ QUOTE ] I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. - Stephen Roberts [/ QUOTE ] I don't really consider myself an atheist, but this is a good quote. [ QUOTE ] ^ The above…
whats a fatalist? heard of agnostics, know what they are. am an atheist, know what that is... but what's a fatalist? btw: in certain religions, when they say that ur fate is pre-determined, that means that ur end is known etc. etc. and not the particular events leading up to it. as for certain religions like hinduism and…
[ QUOTE ] This is exactly the reason why I don't think you can use the Bible as anything other than a safety blanket - you can't just "pick and choose" which parts absolutely must be true, and which parts are a bit nasty-and-weird-so-let's-skip-over-that... it entirely defeats the object of using it as a source of truth.…
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Well, if it's in the Bible then it must be true... because the Bible is true (so says the Bible). [/ QUOTE ] No its not just true because its in the bible, it is true because I have experienced it to be true. If you want to know if it is true for yourself then seek God and see what you find. [/ QUOTE ]…