The "cat is out of the bag" position is IMHO a rather short-sighted and somewhat unimaginative admission of defeat in regards to the way current models are using data from non-public domain images, without obtaining any license from the artists who got scraped. What license should this be? Don't stare at me CC 2.0 ? ^^ I…
@Tiles well yeah winners and losers is the thing. People who had been winning by merit of their own hard won skills now become the losers, and people who've done nothing now are allowed to be winners. But they've sacrificed nothing. That's why the word fair keeps coming up. So, if you were not able to afford to pay artist…
The "cat is out of the bag" position is IMHO a rather short-sighted and somewhat unimaginative admission of defeat in regards to the way current models are using data from non-public domain images, without obtaining any license from the artists who got scraped. One could very well imagine a situation where providers of…
I do wonder what they would do if a legal precedent hits, what would happen to previous training models, would work derived from them be included in a repository that future AI models can derive from. Usually when it's this complicated, it comes down to a settlement and some conditions. I feel like the conditions would be…
how can you search the database and find your medical information in form of pictures, if the pictures arent stored? How can you paint a picture if the image isn't stored in your brain? It both has the same answer. You learned the concept. This is what AI makes so fascinating. It learned what grass is, what a face is, and…
@Tiles But we've already shown examples of pixel-per-pixel (more or less) copies of prominent images, in one of the other AI threads. If "The main concern here so far was that "these basterds uses my data", which they don't. Not a single grain of copyright is touched. They use it for training by simply looking at it.…
@Tiles the future is almost certainly death of the entire human race and nearly all other forms of life, so it kinda needs to be stopped. No, I am not suggesting that AI art is what kills us. Anybody wants to argue about what is unanimous verdict of virtually every scientific community you have to demonstrate that you've…
@Tiles all the law is threat of violence, and almost exclusively it is used to protect the owning class, not the working class. So if you counter a threat of violence by pointing to the law you are just offloading your violence to somebody else. Doesn't put you above anything like you are not an angry chimp like all the…
This thread has been a pretty good read all around. Sad, funny, ironic, depressing, and uplifting all in one. How fun. Some random thoughts to toss into the fire. Some of this will be rehashed shit in slightly different words, I just feel like writing again: I think the whole "AI doesn't store data - nothing is stored, so…
"I'm not seeing how the AI is any different than a person here" It doesn't matter. A human observing a picture to get inspired by is something that is accepted in the social contract, and it doesn't break any law. On the contrary, an entity using a picture that they don't own the rights of and making it a part of a piece…