2d character concept
If you've seen my other posts you probably know that I suck at 2d so here is where I'm going to post my progress on a character concept I'm working on:
I'd really appreciate some tips and/or tutorials etc that any of you guys might have sourced.
I'd really appreciate some tips and/or tutorials etc that any of you guys might have sourced.
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Also just grab an anatomy image of google image search and paste it over your drawing there and make sure the proportions match up. It's not cheating and it's a great way to learn your proportions/anatomy.
Your upper torso doesn't line up to the lower part of the torso... AKA watch his spine and then where his neck connects to the torso just isn't right. You need to shift his shoulders and neck to the left a bit.
Also... his neck is huge. Do what jocose said and grab a main reference image to base proportions off of.
E: you posted while I was posting haha, the ^This was referring to jocose's post.
Lengthened the legs and broadened the shoulders, I also moved the head around a bit.
getting to that now
I just took that for you, (shirt off so you can more clearly see where the anatomy is)
Look at the length of my arms compared to yours, where they fall on the body (compared to the thigh and such) and how the shoulders are. Your shoulders look like they are really really low and that's just kinda weird.
Also, in the pic I'm dead tired haha, I have class in seven hours, I'm going to bed.
You lack understanding in anatomy, proportions, structural drawing, and detailing. My advice would be to grab some anatomy books from Bridgeman and Hogarth. There's one I have by Jeno Barcsay that was good called "Anatomy for the Artist" -well illustrated.
But def get a good understanding of the figure if you're going to be suiting it up. Right now your dude looks amorphous in structure and detail.
Keep at it:)
Alec3d,
"something about the posture isn't right"
this is totally expected when i look at how you've approached creating your piece. you're drawing in the dark, and need to view the subject as a whole. it looks to me like you started drawing the head, and went from there. you didn't even finish the feet the first round.
i think you should consider creating real quick, loose and light gestures and aim to capture the entire subject in your mind, the more you plan before placing your pencil to paper, the more meaningful your pencil stroke will be. it's kind of like thinking before you speak. it's a little extra work, but it will pay off tremendously, i can guarantee you that.
filters are bad..unless its a lensflare
I somewhat disagree. A plan is never a bad thing but... I think more important than planning is to just experiment at this stage. Seems like you know generally what you're after concept wise, but it lacks refinement.
honestly, you'd probably be better off not worrying about perspective and just drawing the figure from a straight front view so you can work on proportions and design.
Flip your canvas horizontally often! make sure you give your character balance. A straight from the chin to the ground usually helps me figure out the balance point of a character. Flipping horizontally will make this process a lot easier. (although i didn't take my own advice too well on this, as my version is falling slightly backwards.) When it comes to the shoulders, keep in mind that there's a good couple of inches between flesh and air, so don't put the armor where the flesh would be. Think about there being a human in there. Getting the angle of the body can be easier if you first indicate the spine. Make sure both sides of the character are correct in perspective. As others suggested before me, it might be easier to skip perspective completely and just design from a front view. This gives you the added advantage of mirroring half your character.
Don't move to modeling until the design is solid, cuz flaws in the concept will transfer to the model.
//edit: I realize i did a pretty grave mistake on his far shoulder, it should be turned more away from us.. but hey, it WAS quick and dirty after all. :P
YES!
Have you tried working out your lineart and major forms first, then thinning them out a bit maybe and building up your paint above them? Seconded prom's art tut, that thing is more or less da law... of art :P
also might help to visualize things as really basic 3d shapes first to get the forms down (esp. on the back view, noticing things are gettin a little indistinct). Just try and build it out of basic cylinders and spheres and junk, might help with basic lighting too. Then go from there fo course
If you look at the references, the chest and back have fairly complicated shapes and I'm wondering wether I should accommodate the layout in the edge loops or model as separate objects, I'm not sure at the moment.
Polycount is : 602
I think instead of trying to learn all this stuff at once, you may be better off getting a picture of an actual person standing in the T-pose then just drawing over that with the armor how you want. This way you don't have to worry about you anatomy being off by soo much in your modeling refs.
Polycount : 2096 tri's
This anatomy is a lot better, but just keep working it. All of it needs to be gone over and over and over and tweaked. The arms, legs, and torso all have problems. I think the arms are still too short.