1) Robots
2) Explosions
3) Christian Bale's fake raspy voice.
How, again, could this possibly be anything but awesome?.
Also, the last robot has a giant freaking laser cannon for a head. That seems like a pretty efficient use of engineering to me.
Hahah, alright, you've a point. Three, infact! Perhaps I'm look to the Terminator films for the more personal demon/friend atmosphere that T1 and 2 had. I think that's what made the first two films for me.
As for the robots... motorbike robots? I can see that, just. Walking behemoths modeled after a bipedal human? I don't know, it looks a bit stumbly to me and with forwards firing weaponry like a human would have because that's all we can process... something more quadruped that could defend/attack from all sides would surely be a bit more efficient? There's always been something about robots modeled after the human form that feels wrong to me, somehow a very human way of looking at designing things that could be free of the limitations of the human form.
I'm a little on the fence with this trailer.
The motorbike robots and lack of night fighting...i mean ALL terminator battles should take place at night!
It was however pretty sweet to see the one woman from the the TV series be in the movie. I really dig the TV series and T1 and T2...T3 uhh...well. I'll definitely see it in theatres i just hope i see more T-100 skeletons with giant guns stomping on skulls.
B
NOTE: The woman i thought was from the TV series is actually the chick from the canceled TV series "Journeyman", that was also a pretty sweet show.
i don't know bout this. it's the problem i usually find in prequels these days. they create things that are more advanced than what was present in the other films. i would love to see ALL three weapons from the original:...terminator, tank thingy, flying thingy. that's it. maybe a couple of variations here and there. but man, don't go nuts cause you can(digi FX).
it's one of the reasons the star wars prequels were all trash(one reason out of zillions). everything was so much more advanced. it just doesn't follow logic in the progression of the fictional world. it's a prequel...make it raw like the very first terminator and concentrate on the story.
@fritz: the star wars prequels do explain the tech pretty well? the xwings could be seen in the fighter ships in episode 3, while the tie fighters could be seen in the jedi starfighters. by that i mean that we can recognize things like s-foils and general shapes etc.
the droids were 'disbanded' because the trade federation was gotten rid of, and the clones were cheaper / already purchased, as compared to manufacturing new droids. the expanded universe explains things better. im no sw buff, but i think most things were well explained, in terms of crappification of technology
also, this terminator isnt a prequel. its a sequel. as far as i remember, this is supposed to be after judgement day, which would put it 'ahead' of the prior 3. as such, super-tech only makes sense. also, we haven't really seen _everything_ skynet had to offer. We dont know how advanced the things were in that secret military base etc. maybe laser-head-robot already existed when we were watching t2. we'll never know.
as long as a good explanation is given, i'll be happy
on the note of being happy:
OMFG!
i loved the T series ever since i saw T2 when i was around 5. T3 was a bit of a let down, and the lack of arnie in the upcoming trilogy slightly saddens me, but after seein this trailer, im pumped for it!
can't wait!
True, the trailer doesn't make me want to see the movie at all. I don't see great acting, no great shots, no character tension, just big effects. If it weren't the terminator franchise I would just classify this as another silly scifi-action film.. which I hope it doesn't turn out to be.
i would love to see ALL three weapons from the original:...terminator, tank thingy, flying thingy. that's it. maybe a couple of variations here and there. but man, don't go nuts cause you can(digi FX).
<science nerd cap> I would have to say from the robots I saw in the trailer, that what we're shown in the older movies are more advanced. Basically the tech we're seeing is indicative of the situations SkyNet has to deal with. Immediately post nuclear apocalypse SkyNet has only basic robot research and manufacturing, and would probably be experimenting with the most efficient ways of killing off large swathes of unaware, unprepared, scattered human survivors who are taking to the road to meet up and scrounge for necessities (hence the motorcycle robots). Later on in the older movies we're seeing a SkyNet send the most efficient streamlined forces into battle instead of a hodge-podge of forces (its learned what forces work best and which don't), and to deal with a lot fewer, battle hardened survivors. </science nerd cap>
as far as the tech goes, you have to consider that through the first 3 movies and the tv show(if they're thinking of the show in their story progression) the timeline has been altered at least 3 times. So, the "future" has undergone what are possibly very significant changes due to what the connors were able to do in the past. Thats an easy space time continuum cop out if they want it, but it also would have an effect on what lay in store in the future. This particular trailer wasn't too impressive, but I will see anything and everything with Terminators, its just a too cool, and most likely accurate, view of humanities future.
Yeah you can hear in the trailer Conner say this isn't the future my mother warned me about. Something has changed. So like in theory if time travel were real and you were to alter things it might create all new futures much worse or brighter then originally projected.
I am guessing that is the case here. That things got even more fucked up and worse due to some change. I don't care to be honest. It doesn't have to fit. It's not real. Suspend the disbelief and enjoy it for what it is. A movie where dudes fight machines that want to kill you. Works for me.
Theres nothing special about this movie. I mean, compared to the other ones. Remember the first time you saw Terminator 2? There are so many awesome moments in that movie, it's a true classic. Wheres the awesome moments from this? It looks like a starship troopers sequel with transformers thrown in.
Theres nothing special about this movie. I mean, compared to the other ones. Remember the first time you saw Terminator 2? There are so many awesome moments in that movie, it's a true classic. Wheres the awesome moments from this? It looks like a starship troopers sequel with transformers thrown in.
I'll still go and see it though.
Wouldn't you need to see it first before finding that kind of thing out?
Theres nothing special about this movie. I mean, compared to the other ones. Remember the first time you saw Terminator 2? There are so many awesome moments in that movie, it's a true classic. Wheres the awesome moments from this? It looks like a starship troopers sequel with transformers thrown in.
...and would probably be experimenting with the most efficient ways of killing off large swathes of unaware, unprepared, scattered human survivors who are taking to the road to meet up and scrounge for necessities...
My suggestion to our robot overlords would be chemical/biological weapons. Why waste your time with lasers?
My suggestion to our robot overlords would be chemical/biological weapons. Why waste your time with lasers?
They covered this in a recent episode of the TV show. The metaphor was we humans are like cockroaches, you can release viruses as much as you want, some people will always be immune, and the immune people can be used to develop vaccines.
T1 and T2 are consistent with there being only one timeline in the telling of this story, that's the whole beauty of it, and the foundation for the theme of unrelenting hope in T2.
well apart from that kid in T2 who's clearly at least twelve but, by the timeline, would be about seven or eight or something
you got me there....i guess....i just get a little bit bummed out when things take the backseat to FX these days because peeps think "we can do anything these days because of computers". i know i know...making real robots is expensive. hahahahaha. but sometimes i really think that peeps making movies these days focus to much on money shots with FX. don't get me wrong i love FX. but man...it seems there is a rawness lost sometimes. in the old days things had to be built...like for real. and since that was so expensive(not saying digiFX are cheap), it was usually a one shot mentality. and they would just have to work with what they had in certain shots. and it had more character in my opinion. i promise you...that if the original terminator used CG....it wouldn't have been such a raw movie. and that's how i like my flix! for example....THE THING. if it used CG....would not have been as good. no way. in many cases...i prefer puppets. maybe i'm off subject...hahaha....had a couple two or tree beers. ha.
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edit, i hope it doesnt turn out to be a transformers ripoff....
And why we build such inefficient robots?
1) Robots
2) Explosions
3) Christian Bale's fake raspy voice.
How, again, could this possibly be anything but awesome?.
Also, the last robot has a giant freaking laser cannon for a head. That seems like a pretty efficient use of engineering to me.
As for the robots... motorbike robots? I can see that, just. Walking behemoths modeled after a bipedal human? I don't know, it looks a bit stumbly to me and with forwards firing weaponry like a human would have because that's all we can process... something more quadruped that could defend/attack from all sides would surely be a bit more efficient? There's always been something about robots modeled after the human form that feels wrong to me, somehow a very human way of looking at designing things that could be free of the limitations of the human form.
Terminator ? Check.
Now all we need are a new RoboCop and Aliens Movie with Christian Bale in it
The RoboCop reboot is being directed by Aronofsky!
The motorbike robots and lack of night fighting...i mean ALL terminator battles should take place at night!
It was however pretty sweet to see the one woman from the the TV series be in the movie. I really dig the TV series and T1 and T2...T3 uhh...well. I'll definitely see it in theatres i just hope i see more T-100 skeletons with giant guns stomping on skulls.
B
NOTE: The woman i thought was from the TV series is actually the chick from the canceled TV series "Journeyman", that was also a pretty sweet show.
When is Christian Bale going to stop thinking he can pull off the raspy voice?
Trailer looks neat but I hope the story is good.
it's one of the reasons the star wars prequels were all trash(one reason out of zillions). everything was so much more advanced. it just doesn't follow logic in the progression of the fictional world. it's a prequel...make it raw like the very first terminator and concentrate on the story.
the droids were 'disbanded' because the trade federation was gotten rid of, and the clones were cheaper / already purchased, as compared to manufacturing new droids. the expanded universe explains things better. im no sw buff, but i think most things were well explained, in terms of crappification of technology
also, this terminator isnt a prequel. its a sequel. as far as i remember, this is supposed to be after judgement day, which would put it 'ahead' of the prior 3. as such, super-tech only makes sense. also, we haven't really seen _everything_ skynet had to offer. We dont know how advanced the things were in that secret military base etc. maybe laser-head-robot already existed when we were watching t2. we'll never know.
as long as a good explanation is given, i'll be happy
on the note of being happy:
OMFG!
i loved the T series ever since i saw T2 when i was around 5. T3 was a bit of a let down, and the lack of arnie in the upcoming trilogy slightly saddens me, but after seein this trailer, im pumped for it!
can't wait!
I wonder what James Cameron will say about it...
<science nerd cap> I would have to say from the robots I saw in the trailer, that what we're shown in the older movies are more advanced. Basically the tech we're seeing is indicative of the situations SkyNet has to deal with. Immediately post nuclear apocalypse SkyNet has only basic robot research and manufacturing, and would probably be experimenting with the most efficient ways of killing off large swathes of unaware, unprepared, scattered human survivors who are taking to the road to meet up and scrounge for necessities (hence the motorcycle robots). Later on in the older movies we're seeing a SkyNet send the most efficient streamlined forces into battle instead of a hodge-podge of forces (its learned what forces work best and which don't), and to deal with a lot fewer, battle hardened survivors. </science nerd cap>
I am guessing that is the case here. That things got even more fucked up and worse due to some change. I don't care to be honest. It doesn't have to fit. It's not real. Suspend the disbelief and enjoy it for what it is. A movie where dudes fight machines that want to kill you. Works for me.
Theres nothing special about this movie. I mean, compared to the other ones. Remember the first time you saw Terminator 2? There are so many awesome moments in that movie, it's a true classic. Wheres the awesome moments from this? It looks like a starship troopers sequel with transformers thrown in.
I'll still go and see it though.
Wouldn't you need to see it first before finding that kind of thing out?
My suggestion to our robot overlords would be chemical/biological weapons. Why waste your time with lasers?
They covered this in a recent episode of the TV show. The metaphor was we humans are like cockroaches, you can release viruses as much as you want, some people will always be immune, and the immune people can be used to develop vaccines.
well apart from that kid in T2 who's clearly at least twelve but, by the timeline, would be about seven or eight or something
oh, it's a mess
edit: ok well you said first film, but still..
Haha hilarious!
Heres a link to a concept.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/3017914778_604e254b36_o.jpg