Hadron (High Poly)

sathe · Sep 2008

Hi Guys first post

, i am getting very close to finishing my Digital Apprentice Competition Entry and am looking for heavy critique at both, a functional and aesthetical point of view to iron out any thing i can in the last couple of days.

everything is my own design from the ground up so far. Quite a few covering up pieces need to go over the internal pieces still.

So critique is pretty much only what im looking for.
Brief is a stealth walking mech thats badass

Latest Progress. $:\$

DeathKitten · Sep 2008

Foiled again! I read your title as "Hardon" ;p

Your model is pretty funky, looks functional and biiiiig. I'm not much into inorganic things so I'm afraid I have no crits for you

-DK >^..^<

konstruct · Sep 2008

Fuck- really nice surfaces. - cant really crit much on those because they seem pretty tight/spot on/perfect to me. the head however, seems a little stuck on, last minute.

Psychoform`s spidermech might get the juices flowing a bit.

http://www.psychoform.com/

jerry · Sep 2008

I would love to see some wires of this. It must've been a gruesome task to lay all the smoothing edges on this badboy

Awesome stuff.

zerafian · Sep 2008

Very nice, well thought out detail

First thought in my mind is a hi res version of the hadron collider

stoofoo · Sep 2008

youve got some really fucking great hard surface modeling and a cool looking set of bot action there. I expected a recreation of one of the hadron colliders sensors, though. haha.

Great work my man.

clee101 · Sep 2008

Really nice work man. Can we see some wires? Mainly only critque from me is that joint on the elbow part seems a bit wierd.. and almost looks like its floating.. How is it connected and what is the rotational limitation on it? Oh yeah, I agree, the head doesnt look as detailed as the rest of the model. By the way, are you the Sathe that left 3dtotal? You were really well known there man. Good to see you again.

EarthQuake · Sep 2008

This is some pretty slick modeling man, good job.

Pedro Amorim · Sep 2008

OH hai grant! what i told you about fanbois ahahahahaha
anywho. this is looking pretty solid.
someone mentioned the head. yeah. thats what i dont like that much, but as you said its more of a design thing from you.

Mezz · Sep 2008

DeathKitten wrote: »

Foiled again! I read your title as "Hardon" ;p

Your model is pretty funky, looks functional and biiiiig. I'm not much into inorganic things so I'm afraid I have no crits for you

-DK >^..^<

AHAHAHHAHAH!! Omg you too?
I was all... whaa, a hardon? o0 -click
ohhh. HaDRon. Gotcha.

But seriously, it looks amazing to me, nothing I can see to crit. GL with it

fullofclovers · Sep 2008

Super sexy modeling. Would be awesome to see em in action!

almighty_gir · Sep 2008

lol, when i saw the title i thought you were gonna model the LHC or something haha.

awesome job though man. hope you add that as a vehicle in UT3

renderhjs · Sep 2008

that's some nice modeling

sathe · Sep 2008

Hi Guys, thanks for your feedback, the head comment i agree, it did look totaly stuck on, so i have shrunk it down 30% and am working on making it look more solidly connected like the rest. Its one of the few remaining things to do so i will pay close attention to it.

Once again, really hammer in to me, you don't need to be nice although i do appreciate it.

and yeh, i am sathe from threedy :poly142:

Edit: Apologies just woke up and missed a few things.

Will get wires up of the finished 100%.

Also thanks for the Link to Psychoforms website, no idea he existed and this was a huge moral boost when i saw his work on the mech and transformers, exactly what i needed!

MoP · Sep 2008

That's really cool

Blaizer · Sep 2008

Really cool yep, it's hard to see this kind of models nowadays, seems like almost all ppl avoid real Mesh work

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Great work!

moose · Sep 2008

green ftw!

thats pretty sweet

sathe · Sep 2008

Thanks for the compliments but really i am looking for harshness here.
want to correct as much stupid shit as possible. 30 hours to go

clee101 · Sep 2008

I still think the head could use alot more work and detailing. The shillouette right now looks like a big simple shape that looks like the mechbot from Robocop. The eyes look pretty simple and generic too. Go lot crazyier with the head man thats the most focal part of it and since it is a big shape of the whole model.

Cojax · Sep 2008

Awesome hardsurface modeling man. I agree with some of the other comments, you should really add more detail on the head...or more so under the head. Other then that you should be proud, this is top notch stuff.

stoofoo · Sep 2008

mm i disagree with the comments about the head needing more detail... maybe some very minor detailing? But damn, let a brother's eye rest, you know? Gotta stop somewhere.

sathe · Sep 2008

Hey guys thanks for the critique! I will be adding more details to the head now!
The problem is it cannot be large detail. The Brief emphasizes stealth and therefore im keeping it as simple as possible for minimising on radar....even though technically its on the ground its bullshit cause radar would be barely useful at all. however i have specifically tried to avoid going apeshit on the head

Its been redesigned from scratch 4 times so if you could give me some examples of what type of detail i can better tackle it. Right now im trying to figure out what i needs?

Thanks heaps, this is great, keep slamming me. Any other stuff that is off let me know.,

sinistergfx · Sep 2008

Awesome. Nice clean modelling and interesting flowing shapes! It's refreshing to see this kind of hardcore modelling.
Here's hoping for some base wireframes!

clee101 · Sep 2008

If I were you, I would think about cutting in more grooves and add more depth on the details of the head. Overall, the head seems flat. I mean, its kool that it looks aerodynamic and you should keep that. But for example, cutting some area open under the eye part, which can then reveal some kool mechanical details and such.. The eye itself can be more kooler, with a bit more detailed mechanics on it rather than a generic headlight eye. Anyway, thats my 2 cents. Good Luck man! GO GO GO!!!

sathe · Sep 2008

here is an Outdated Wire il post up many when its completed!

wireframe.jpg (1.1 MB)

Edit, Thanks Clee! Sweet idea with the cut under the eye. As soon as i get this back stuff made i will get on it.

corrosion · Sep 2008

The arms are short-ish. It makes the legs look too imposing. I would try to balance off that equation. The arm with the big gun is not giving the model a lot of strenght, as it goes back. Maybe it should be bigger towards the front, instead of the back. Make the gun a bit less slick and more hard angles, it would create a nice contrast! Nothing like a huge gun with a big belt of crazy high tech bullets wrapping around it! The arm with the small gun looks reall weak.. I think it's the weird joint you got going on there, and the forearm looks shortish - somewhat ineffective. Also, I agree with some of the comments on the head - it looks too clean compared with other parts, lacking some detail. I'm not saying make it super detail, but add some finer parts here and there on the head to make it come together with the rest of the model. Good luck man. You have some great stuff there!

sathe · Sep 2008

Hi Corrosion, thank you!

I agree with the arms, ive had a feeling they may be too short, definately in the rigging pose, when stretched out its less noticeable at least. Il Fix it up, and work on the Joint.
Joints have been the hardest. Cause it needs 360* degree rotation and the ability to flex up and down without intersecting.

Good idea with the Right hand gun balancing, il try and ad some detail bottom front to weight it up more.

I will be taking a strong look again at Psychoforms mech and adding some more paneling detail.

Thanks heaps for this dudes

keep it comin!

clee101 · Sep 2008

No problem man. Glad you liked the idea. Also, I agree with corrosion on the arms and guns. The length of the upperarm joints are both short. Extending them would add a nice balance.. and also making the size of the gun bigger and bulkier on the side with the grenade launcher type gun than the other side with the long range type gun would push the shillouette more interesting. Keep at it man, cant wait to see this badboy finished!!!

SHEPEIRO · Sep 2008

very nice

sathe · Sep 2008

Hi Guys,

Thank you all for your encouragement, but mostly critical feedback,

I have finished the model now, unfortunately there was alot to fix and i didnt have time to accommodate all the changes so for the competition entry renders i will have to go with as much as i could fix and come back to it in a few days when im fresh and properly make all the changes i wanted.

Will get all the stuff up in a few hours when its done, CHeers,

Grant.

sathe · Sep 2008

Heres the Final for Submission but will continue to make changes after a little break.

Once again thank you everyone here for your thought out crits and encouragements, Really awesome.

Ultra Highres-

Pedro Amorim · Sep 2008

awesome work Grant! this is definatly a winner!
Just not too sure on that bump on the black material

wizo · Sep 2008

amazing renders, it really makes the eye wanna look everywhere. my only crit is that it doesnt look like it could transform in a 18 wheeler...

just kidding, this thing kicks ass!

great job.

Kawe · Sep 2008

sathe wrote: »

here is an Outdated Wire il post up many when its completed!

wireframe.jpg (1.1 MB)

wtb completed wires

Mark Dygert · Sep 2008

That's a big hard edged Hadron you have there.

Seriously I almost skipped this thread because my mind read something else... I'm glad I didn't awesome work so far!

Ged · Sep 2008

incredible work, yeah the speckle on the black material looks a bit strange

sathe · Sep 2008

The Breakdown, Cheers guys!

AimBiZ · Sep 2008

Goes right to inspiration folder. Only crit would be the front part of the head still needs some more detail to match the rest of the model. Just some small subtle stuff would really do this great I think.

SHEPEIRO · Sep 2008

fecking lurvly
love the inconel 625 high-density aerospace alloy esp
and cheap too

ViPr · Sep 2008

the head just needs panelization.

AnimeAngel · Sep 2008

awesome work.. that will have to go in my inspiration folder as well.

iatriki · Sep 2008

it looks mighty cool!

Hadron (High Poly)

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