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What about bringing back the Brawl Contest?

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wirrexx
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One of my favourite contest on Polycount that i did not participate in (did not know how to modell or texture) Was the Brawl Contest. Is there a possibility any time soon that we will see this coming back? 


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  • Clark Coots
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    Brawl was my favorite contest PC ever did too.
  • R3D
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    I agree, brawl was fantastic
  • zachagreg
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    zachagreg ngon master
    What is this brawl?
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  • Rafael_Vieira
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    Brawl tournament would be pretty amazing, so many great options out there to choose from.

    @zachagreg Here's the thread from 8 years ago, the tl;dr would be that the participants had to choose a fighter (character artists) or a stage (environment artists) from any fighting game and remake it as they saw fit.
  • zachagreg
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    Oh that's awesome! I would love to see that come back. Or just some more Polycount contests in general to be honest.
  • Obscura
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    Obscura grand marshal polycounter
    How about bringing back the recap first?  :p

    Anyways, I think the brawl one was around the time I joined polycount. We should have more challenges in general. We rarely have any of them.
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    Oh man that actually sounds amazing. I'd be down.
  • wirrexx
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    I love the Monthlys. But there was something special about Brawl. I mean just seeing one of your moste beloved Levels come to life, in so many different ways were AMAZE-balls!
  • Mathew O
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    I'd be so happy to see big contests on Polycount again, they were so inspiring.
  • wirrexx
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    A couple of pictures from the Brawl competition (environment and character are done by seperate artist. But Jesus, they still hold up very well today. Remember this was in 2011!)
  • Ashervisalis
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    What if we replaced the next monthly environment/character challenges with a Brawl? It could be an annual tradition.
  • Arkadius
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    I'd be so down. But please have limitations on the contest. I'm kinda tired of unlimited polycounts and textures... Kinda defeats the purpose in my eyes... 
  • wirrexx
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    Arkadius said:
    I'd be so down. But please have limitations on the contest. I'm kinda tired of unlimited polycounts and textures... Kinda defeats the purpose in my eyes... 
    This was limited though. I think they had limitations to textures sizes and how many you could use.  
  • zachagreg
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    Arkadius said:
    I'd be so down. But please have limitations on the contest. I'm kinda tired of unlimited polycounts and textures... Kinda defeats the purpose in my eyes... 
    That's a pet peeve I have about the artstation challenges sometimes, you'll see this person with 3-4 4k textures for one prop and its ridiculous
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  • Lucas Annunziata
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    Bring Back Brawl! BBB!
  • Alex_J
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    I'd love to see any themed competition -- brawl or otherwise. And i also agree with keeping realistic current production in mind, i.e. limit on textures and tri's.

    dunno if it's feasible but would be cool if the challenge went beyond concept and production, but included rigging and animation as well.
  • Alemja
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    I'm not sure what would be needed, but I would be down to help organize another Brawl instead of doing a Character Challenge for a couple of months. Brawl was probably one of my favorite competitions, it would be great to have another. If @kadeschuiis interested in the environment side maybe it could be the start of something.
    dunno if it's feasible but would be cool if the challenge went beyond concept and production, but included rigging and animation as well.
    +1 to this, the Animators and riggers don't get enough love or a chance to shine in competitions. If you wanted to include them maybe there could be a round 2 like Artstation does where the concept artists go first and the modelers can chose a concept if they wish shortly afterwards.

    zachagreg said:
    Arkadius said:
    I'd be so down. But please have limitations on the contest. I'm kinda tired of unlimited polycounts and textures... Kinda defeats the purpose in my eyes... 
    That's a pet peeve I have about the artstation challenges sometimes, you'll see this person with 3-4 4k textures for one prop and its ridiculous
    The game art portion of the Artstation challenge had stricter limitations where the vfx/film section was more open. I agree that the limits on the competitions make these things more fun, creative and inspiring. Game art shines the best when you manage to do a lot within a certain amount of limitations.
  • m4dcow
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    Alemja said:

    The game art portion of the Artstation challenge had stricter limitations where the vfx/film section was more open. I agree that the limits on the competitions make these things more fun, creative and inspiring. Game art shines the best when you manage to do a lot within a certain amount of limitations.
    The only limitation I have seen for the game art sections of the Artstation challenges is that they be presented in a realtime engine/viewer. The later polycount challenges didn't actually have any really crazy limitations, I think the last of those style challenges was Escape, after that it went a different route, Riot contest, Chivalry, Polycount Tower etc...

    I missed the old style epic contests, as an environment artist there was Unearthly Challenge, Brawl, Mutant, Escape... then Allegorithmic had Throne Room, there are a bunch I'm probably forgetting. Artstation has their challenges every few months, but I don't really get that excitement and sense of community from those, plus there isn't ever really any twist to those, they have the theme announced for the concepting guys, and you might as well start working from then, because there is no twist or anything interesting. There usually aren't any sort of prizes either (not that i think they are necessary), almost feels like you are doing spec work to get people to visit the site. I guess if you need to make a portfolio piece anyway, or are trying to make a name for yourself it works.

    Most of the contests/challenges these days seem to be on a smaller scale, where you end up with more people completing the challenge, because some either won't join an large scale challenge, and others might not have the time to see it through, I know I'm guilty of this myself. So it might be hard to get people hyped for a large challenge if it is simply a brawl do over on one of the monthly challenge threads.

  • wirrexx
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    m4dcow said:
    Alemja said:

    The game art portion of the Artstation challenge had stricter limitations where the vfx/film section was more open. I agree that the limits on the competitions make these things more fun, creative and inspiring. Game art shines the best when you manage to do a lot within a certain amount of limitations.
    The only limitation I have seen for the game art sections of the Artstation challenges is that they be presented in a realtime engine/viewer. The later polycount challenges didn't actually have any really crazy limitations, I think the last of those style challenges was Escape, after that it went a different route, Riot contest, Chivalry, Polycount Tower etc...

    I missed the old style epic contests, as an environment artist there was Unearthly Challenge, Brawl, Mutant, Escape... then Allegorithmic had Throne Room, there are a bunch I'm probably forgetting. Artstation has their challenges every few months, but I don't really get that excitement and sense of community from those, plus there isn't ever really any twist to those, they have the theme announced for the concepting guys, and you might as well start working from then, because there is no twist or anything interesting. There usually aren't any sort of prizes either (not that i think they are necessary), almost feels like you are doing spec work to get people to visit the site. I guess if you need to make a portfolio piece anyway, or are trying to make a name for yourself it works.

    Most of the contests/challenges these days seem to be on a smaller scale, where you end up with more people completing the challenge, because some either won't join an large scale challenge, and others might not have the time to see it through, I know I'm guilty of this myself. So it might be hard to get people hyped for a large challenge if it is simply a brawl do over on one of the monthly challenge threads.

    Didn't you have a Smash brawl going on? :D
  • Eric Chadwick
    If one of you wants to help organize this, I think we'd be all for it.

    Writing the announcements, drafting rules, getting graphics together, contacting companies for prizes, etc.

    It's a fair amount of time and dedication. Difficult for us to run these days, with jobs and families. But I do see the value, would love to see another big one if y'all are up for it.
  • Eric Chadwick
    There's something big happening on Monday, I can leak you that. ;)
  • R3D
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    There's something big happening on Monday, I can leak you that. ;)
    WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS
  • Ashervisalis
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  • wirrexx
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    There's something big happening on Monday, I can leak you that. ;)
    This comment, makes my heart beat!!! 
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    Don't mind me, I'm just a + whore.

    Well, except that I've disabled points for admins. Oops. 

    https://polycount.com/activity

  • m4dcow
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    Don't mind me, I'm just a + whore.

    Well, except that I've disabled points for admins. Oops. 

    https://polycount.com/activity

    :(
    I do love how Gib is still high up on that leaderboard though :D
  • zachagreg
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    There's something big happening on Monday, I can leak you that. ;)
    Is it that site rework/ feature update you mentioned somewhere else? Something about a different hosting platform because vanilla doesn't want to give us thread thumbnails.
  • m4dcow
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    There's something big happening on Monday, I can leak you that. ;)
    So I see the big thing...
  • Alex_J
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    Definitely not what I expected. My eyes burn, but somehow I can't look away.
  • Obscura
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    m4dcow interpolator
    It's scrolling by itself now.... Its like a drunk simulator.
  • wirrexx
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    wirrexx quad damage
    jesus @Eric Chadwick  why would you do that?
  • R3D
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    zachagreg said:well I suppose you're half right?
    There's something big happening on Monday, I can leak you that. ;)
    Is it that site rework/ feature update you mentioned somewhere else? Something about a different hosting platform because vanilla doesn't want to give us thread thumbnails.
    WELL YOU'RE HALF RIGHT
  • DavidCruz
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    On/Topic: Now all we need is for all the old folks to come out of hiding and say, did someone say: "Brawl"!
  • marks
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    Contests are so passé these days. If I want to see 100 people doing the same thing I can go look at the front page of artstation.
  • Alex_J
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    I like contest. Interesting to see people do the same thing but in their own way.

    But I thought the main purpose was for people to gain exposure? Is there a better way? Any other way, really?
  • m4dcow
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    The best contests are the ones with a relatively vague directive, so people can have their own interpretation. So no one is typically doing the same thing unless their idea is the first generic obvious thing that comes to mind.

    Artstation has the concept phase for their challenges, which they encourage people to pull from for the latter stages and several people might work on the same concept, but even then the stylistic choices can set entries apart.

    If anyone wants a challenge to all work on the same concept there are the monthly art challenges anyway.
  • zachagreg
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    I like contest. Interesting to see people do the same thing but in their own way.

    But I thought the main purpose was for people to gain exposure? Is there a better way? Any other way, really?
    Yea go work on some of those projects on /rclientsfromhell
  • another caveman
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    I'm waiting on the next artstation one, but once that done, we should give brawl a go!!
    Who organized the previous ones? We could take it from here, I believe it's some time investment...
  • iam717
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    Feels bad this did not happen, and i see some people have been "removed" who were also excited, 5 years i guess its NOT going to happen then.
    If you do decide to do it you should be hyping it up before hand like 1 month before so anyone "from the ol'den'days" can see the info eventually and NOT miss out. //i was looking for something else and came across this again.
  • Eric Chadwick
    Anyone is welcome to organize a new contest, I'd be up for supporting that! 

    Oh and @wirrexx asked for their account to be locked, no mystery cabal thing here. They even asked for their posts to remain, in case those can help others. Similar thing with @FrankPolygon. Some people just need a break from social media and all its demands, understandable.

    As for another Brawl, most people just don't realize how much work is really involved in managing a big contest like that. To make it big and special takes a great deal of effort. Anyone remember Fred's meltdown?

    If someone wants to get something going, start drafting something up. Bring your energy and excitement, be ready to carry it through for everyone! I could easily set up a new forum section for it. Make us a banner for it, and I'll stick it up there. Etc. 
  • littleclaude
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    I'll pimp it on my student & Alumni socials and kid myself into thinking I have time to take part 😀
  • Alemja
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    Anyone remember Fred's meltdown?
    Sure do! The stuff leading up to the breakdown was what caused Polycount to drop out of Dominance War 5 and create the Brawl

    Honestly, let's make another Brawl, same specs and everything (kids these days, they don't know!)

    Fighting games are in kind of a new golden era, I think it would be cool if we celebrated it a bit. A lot of work from some artists back then still holds up real well too
  • iam717
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    Not to re-bump this BUT i had an idea i thought people should at least read:(consider)

    How about we, Wildly attempt something possibly amazing?

    1st ever challenge that becomes a "indie" game under the title of the challenge?
    Having all aspects of "development", be the dev of the game?  which will fuel the forums again, make connections with like minded devs, bring teams together, collab and a bunch of stuff like this.

    So example :  we can still have community judging and legit judges? it should be very transparent though.

    Some how we split the proceeds among chosen entries? i.e. the $ales of the game, we can include other sites like we did with Dom.War's once upon a time.  That specialize in their chosen profession, so vfx, animation, ect.ect.

    Maybe even add in some crowd funding on all crowd funding sites? to boost dedication and completion, market it with channels like flipnormals and the like, it would be a giant collab a once in a life-time event?

    My returned .02's on this situation, i thought at least it would be a memorable piece of gaming history, only if achieved. (reddit here 1st)

    Always thought this place would eventually become a studio or company, with all the talent that was around when i 1st visited this place, idk if bearkub had this idea once upon a time or if it ever crossed his mind, it was on mine, but with everyone wanting to be "banned" or removed from the site or being removed during "tough times", that spill into the forums and probably feeling unfulfilled in this Gaming adventure, it does not bod well for this being mentioned so late becoming a reality. 

    (i tried at least..i am down though and this if planned really well, can work, i came up with this by looking at the artist in need of employment...took a message from "R.o.b.o.t.s" see a need, fill a need, i know cheesy...)
    Lets go out with a bang, before these bastards steal our sh!t.^robo.s...
  • Eric Chadwick
    wirrexx wasn't "banned" per se, they asked for their account to be locked, but for their posts to remain. I wish there was a different way to do this that didn't label the account as banned, but there isn't. sorry. At the very least, I try to make a note in their "About Me" that this was the reason. 
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