AR-15_High_Poly
Hey guys, I started working on my first weapon, an AR-15. I have been working on the picatinny rail. Its the high poly is not 100% done but I am looking for some input on what I should fix and what is good and what should be added. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Should they still be soft even though in real life talot of objects have pretty sharp edges?
Short answer: Yes! Long answer: Mostly yes, It depends on your texture size, your bakes and how you are rendering it.
Basically you want to have a transition between surfaces in your normal map yes? A slight bevel, even if it's very small. However the size of that bevel is limeted by the amount of pixels it takes up on your normal map. If its only 1px wide, then there's essentially no transition. Also think about how this object will read from a distance. If it's viewed in a players hands you will see lot of detail, but still not as much as in a portfolio render. Alot of people will make exaggerated edges to have the guns 'highpoly' shape read well from a third person view.
Just think about how much of your high poly is going to make it onto the texture!
Usually somebody posts a nice image showing how edge sharpness results with growing distance. I don´t have the image right now, but people here are great and will post it and say something to it : )
You got one little smoothing error on the front part, but it looks way better than before.
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You have 3 edges going down the middle there which you do not need at all, you have a triangle on the left and a quad on the right, match them up dude! Keep quads not tris.
This is something you need;
For p.rails, you may even have the edges on the front of the gun wider in a linear fashion, than the back ones, to counter perspective a bit
Weapon cameras use a FOV from 60-45, thats a pretty hefty perspective
If you would go for offline rendering, movie CG you could do the sharp edges thing, but in games you need the soft ones, aliasing is a enemy, and shiny edges really sell your material. With powerful offline lighting, sharp edges can look very convincing, but we are not there yet
I know this may take alot of you less then a day to build the whole thing but its my first weapon and I want to make it perfect from the beginning. Dosent matter to how long it takes, its a personal project.
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The only thing I noticed that bothers me is the 'teeth' of the railing are too close to each other. Spaces between them are too small. I'm not really sure if any sort of attachment screw would fit between them. In the previous pictures they seemed to be right. Also, I have a feeling that the whole part is too thick but I may be wrong on that one.
thanks alot. Yea the holes on a curved surface annoyed me too. I'm basing the AR off the one I own. I counted the number of rails and it has I think 18, and the spacing was really tight. That's what she said. I did the first models from memory but then I grabbed mine and actually looked at it and counted.
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I am working on the gas block and I am having a smoothing issue. Its alittle hard to tell but its on the supporting verts of the circle. Any help is appreciated. Cheers.
But MultiCamil said it: You can leave ngons on flat surfaces or connect them to a triangle.
Maybe this will help you out. But with ngons stay away from curved geometry.
I realize that image appeared on this forum like zyllion times, but it's still usefull
Yep, don't model in little holes and shit that will just be covered by other parts. It will never be seen and it will give you problems when baking. Concentrate on the outer shell of what will actually be seen, not creating a CAD-level model of all the internals.
I will soften up the Edges at the end of the HP modeling process.
For now, im happy to get a nice result
Some People told me to model all, not only the visible parts because of the third person version of the weapon.
Actually i dont know what will take more time, a new LowPoly for the 3rdPerson Version of the Weapon or a big collapse from the FirstPerson Version to a 3rdPeron Version.
Im scared about baking this Weapon, so for now i have only the HP in mind.
Would like to have a professional by my side, which showing me the complete baking process of my m15 included the correction of my failures on the LP and HP
But Back2Topic!
I dont want to steal the threadstarters thread!
THANKS!
Gazu- please dude ask all you want and all please say what you want. I guarantee someone will say something I need lol.
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