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Are MSI Laptops really good?

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Still researching about which laptop to get.Recently,I saw a laptop someone got with 16gb ram,gtx 760 and with a i7 processor and it cost only 900 pounds and it was a msi laptops.
I am not familiar with this brand.So I wanted to ask if anyone has used a msi laptop before and how it compares to Dell or HP in terms of performance ,durability and lifespan.

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  • .Wiki
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    .Wiki polycounter lvl 8
    I would reccomend you a Dell, HP or lenovo notebook. Their business line machinesare mostly more durable then those gaming notebooks.
  • Dataday
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    Dataday polycounter lvl 8
    Lenovo has the y510p which is a pretty good mid price range notebook with a quad core haswell chip and a 2gig nvida video card. I think it goes up to 16 gigs of ram as well.

    That might be worth checking out before a MSI.
  • passerby
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    passerby polycounter lvl 12
    for laptops, from experience what would recommend is lenovo, or ASUS laptops, both have very high build quality and rock.

    i never had a MSI laptop, but have had MSI motherboards in the past and never had issue though.
  • ambershee
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    ambershee polycounter lvl 17
    ASUS have had a recent run of really shitty motherboards, I'm steering clear of them for the time being. Dell's workstations are good, but tend to be at the expensive end of the line and don't offer decent graphics solutions. Their use of custom hardware and BIOS also makes them impossible to repair when something does go wrong.

    Lenovo are pretty solid.
  • monster
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    monster polycounter
    I got an MSI laptop about a year ago. Everything about it is better than the HP i had before then. You won't be disappointed if you get one.
  • Dataday
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    Dataday polycounter lvl 8
    Perna, I agree with that sentiment as well, though only to an extent. Brand is important when you need to consider the support that comes along with it. MSI is a taiwanese company for example, while they may have good products, their customer support can be horrible. So in a sense knowing the brand and what comes alongside the brand matters beyond just the product.

    Another example would be the EVGA brand for video cards. The taiwanese brands such as MSI and Gigabyte usually get better performance, but if the GPU does or an issue pops up, its rare if you will get proper support. On the flip side, EVGA is based in California USA if im not mistaken, and they have much better support including a life time warranty for AR based GPU models.

    At the end of the day though, even having good support is moot if the product is junk.
  • RexM
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    I would have to recommend Sager notebooks. You can upgrade the CPU, GPU and RAM for most models, it is a well known and highly recommended brand as well.

    I got an ASUS notebook a while back with a 660M and an i7. Works great, cools just as good as a desktop (two huge vents on the back and the GPU never goes above 75C, granted the 660M runs cool anyways). I wouldn't recommend an ASUS though since they make it harder to upgrade the GPU as compared to Sager, which uses a standard size for replaceable notebook GPUs.
  • EarthQuake
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    I ordered a Sager myself a couple months ago. They are the only company on the market (aside from apple who charges 2x for similar hardware) to offer what I wanted in a laptop:
    Small size (13.3")
    i7
    Dedicated GPU (765m)
    And most importantly, a high quality IPS screen (the macbook pro retina is really the only screen better on the market)
    You can't even get this sort of spec in a MBP at this size, only with the larger model, and then its $2800.

    I love it for the most part. Though the battery life is poor, and the BIOS is really basic, and the fan profile is terrible (basic bios means no tweaking). The fan will pop on full blast, drop down, pop back up over and over under heavy use.

    Sager offers a huge variety of components, its really the closest thing you can get to building your own laptop. So if you know what you want, Sager is a good choice. I got the NP7330.

    Shopping for laptops by brand is useless. I owned a Lenovo E420 for a short period, which was a shit laptop, and I replaced it with a Lenovo X220, which is a much, much, much better laptop. Both have similar specs.
  • melviso
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    melviso polycounter lvl 10
    Thanks for the recommendation, guys. My apologies,Just checking the thread now.Has anyone tried ACER laptops?

    Again,thanks for taking time to answer.
  • EarthQuake
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    Again, asking for opinions on a *brand* is not going to get you anywhere. Sure people have tried acers, probably somewhere in the range between $300-1500 models. And opinions will vary.

    Lets get it out of the way, people have also tried dell, apple, hp, asus, lenovo, samsung, etc laptops. And opinions will vary wildly.

    Again, models from the same company can vary wildly even with similar specs.

    If you have some specific model you're looking at you'll likely get more useful advice.

    The only thing you can really look at by brand is how good the customer support is, as this varies less than a model to model computer. There isn't one brand that only makes good computers, or one brand that only makes bad computers.
  • melviso
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    melviso polycounter lvl 10
    I am considering btw these two:

    Acer Aspire V3-772G
    -16 GB DDR3,hd-1TB,Intel Core i7-4702MMQ,Nvidia Geoforce GT750M with 4gb DDR3.


    Lenovo y510p
    -16 GB DDR3,HD-1TB,Intel Core i7-4700MMQ,Nvidia Geoforce GT750M with 2gb DDR5.

    I wonder what's the difference between ddr5 and dddr3 when it comes to graphics cards.
  • melviso
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    melviso polycounter lvl 10
    I wanted to ask if anyone has ever bought a laptop on ebuyer website and never had any problem with the product. For some reason,I don't know if Amazon is a good place to buy stuff bc one might purchase substandard products.

    I am considering the ASUS ROG G750JH.But it appears ASUS doesn't sell their products directly on their website.
  • Thaurdol
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    Thaurdol polycounter lvl 7
    melviso wrote: »
    Thanks for the recommendation, guys. My apologies,Just checking the thread now.Has anyone tried ACER laptops?

    Again,thanks for taking time to answer.

    I had an Acer once, it was such a waste of money. I had to send it twice back and they couldn't fix the problems I was having. Basicly everything was giving up on my laptop already after half a year after the purchase date. I would recoment Asus laptops or find yourself a company that sells customised laptops. I just bought a custom made laptop with brand new specs for 1700€ and it was 200 to 300€ cheaper than buying a laptop with the same range of specs from Asus or MSI.
  • melviso
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    Thanks for replying,Thaurdol.
    Did u buy it online or u went to a company in person to get the customized one made?Would u mind sharing the specs and brand of laptop u got?

    I am new to this online buying stuff and I have heard of these companies making mistakes delivering the wrong specs if u order for a customized one.

    I guess I should just go with it and get this done and hope for the best.
    Thanks again.
  • Froyok
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    Froyok greentooth
    My current laptop which is an MSI gone to the support 2 times for a fan problem. I didn't have to pay anything (I mean, for the shipping), everything was taken by the support. Other than that, my laptop is solid and never failed on something else. The support was fast. It took two weeks to send and get back my laptop. I don't have any precise complain about MSI. They do the job.

    Dell and HP however... HP is quite bad for professionals, so for casual customer don't even want to think aobut it. Dell has some strange hardware design choices too. I remember a friend having problem with his wifi card because the computer was too well isolated.

    ASUS is popular for the moment, but I have seen some serious problems with their laptops recently so I'm not convinced either (problem with special nVidia card requiring drivers made by the constructor and not nVidia, or lot of hardware problems with HDD and so on).


    It's alway hard to choose. Personally I will stick with MSI for my next laptop I think...
  • melviso
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    melviso polycounter lvl 10
    Thanks,Froyok.I still have a HP laptop.Its 7 years old and works perfectly except for some keys not working but its low spec.I use a desktop for my 3d works.

    ASUS Nvidia graphics card drivers don't work with the official Nvidia drivers?The one that comes with the ASUS G750JH should work fine with new drivers from Nvidia's official website...I hope.

    I agree, its really hard to chose.
  • Froyok
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    Froyok greentooth
    melviso wrote: »
    ASUS Nvidia graphics card drivers don't work with the official Nvidia drivers?The one that comes with the ASUS G750JH should work fine with new drivers from Nvidia's official website...I hope.

    Unfortunately I don't know, this was true for a serie of "gamer" laptop made by ASUS, but I can't say if it's still true today since it was 2 years ago.
  • Thaurdol
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    Thaurdol polycounter lvl 7
    Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4700MQ (2.40GHz) 6MB
    Memory (RAM) 32GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (4 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 770M - 3.0GB DDR5

    I definately wanted a huge memory boost as it was my main bottleneck on my older laptop. When I compared this build with Asus, MSI and even Alienware I go a better result of the price when I built it together and ordered from UK. I never visited the store, I checked plenty of reviews of the store and then ordered as I was confident it would work out fine. It took 8 working days for the people to assemble the laptop and another 3 days to ship it from UK to Belgium.
  • melviso
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    melviso polycounter lvl 10
    @Froyok I am sure they must have fixed that problem since it was 2 yrs ago.Thanks for letting me know.I will still research it.

    @Thaurdol That's some high spec,man.Can u state which company it is?Do they make their own brand or its a Dell or Lenovo?
  • Thaurdol
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    Thaurdol polycounter lvl 7
    Of course. I ordered from http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ and to link to the exact model which I modified http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/vortexIV-17/

    About the brand I cant say.
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