Johnny From Guilty gear (Critiques very Welcome)

chudork · Jul 2013

this is for the fighting game 3d fan art challenge, looking to improve myself more in 3d game character creation and my zbrush sculpting skills so critiques are very welcome

this is my latest WIP so far

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

I feel like the forms are kinda soft, especially for an aesthetic like Guilty Gear's. Check out some of the work that's out there like some version of Dizzy Funky Bunnies did or Vidar's Potemkin.

chudork · Jul 2013

ahh kk, still kinda starting, out thanks for the suggestions on what to look at

chudork · Jul 2013

retopo at around 22k tris seems like something went wrong lolz, any suggestions on how to fix it

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

It looks like the normals on your low poly were faceted when baking. Soften them up and re-bake.

chudork · Jul 2013

Sculpting phase would like to call this done, but suggestions and critiques are welcome so i can improve it more

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

It does look better, but it wouldn't be bad to use this to study a bit. You could probably find tutorials similar to this:

[ame="

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZY3I7SyLQI"]Zbrush Character Sculpt - Mutant 004 - YouTube[/ame]

for every part of your model.

chudork · Jul 2013

cool!! thanks for this vid, i think this can really help me improve my sculpts in zbrush

onizuka92 · Jul 2013

He looks a little Squished. try lengthening the characters body to really push that stylized look of johnny.

chudork · Jul 2013

@onizuka, thanks for the suggestion ill try that adjustment see how it works out

chudork · Jul 2013

adjusted the torso a bit and broke symmetry in the trenchcoat and bit in the pants

Abrvpt · Jul 2013

Good progress

But for now the shoes are Very off... Seems you started them straight in ZBrush, but they are really too blobby right now. You should try something like 3ds max or Maya to model the hard surface of the shoe as far as possible, then add only the small details in ZBrush.
Here's a reference that will help, notice he's wearing relatively small shoes, not big boots.

Also you should make the second belt in the proportions of this reference, those upscaled parts are quite important in the Guilty Gear design.
Hope it will help.

chudork · Jul 2013

thanks for the tips about the belt and shoes

, yeah you are correct about the shoes I guess still need more practice hehe

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

Yeah, this is definitely a good piece for you to learn on. It's improved noticeably since you started the thread.

chudork · Jul 2013

yeah learning a lot more, wishing i kinda learned these things when i was doing the polycount adventure contest hehe, a test bake and render of wireframe in maya, need to reduce the 23k polycount feels a bit too much for the character

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

23,000 is high for a character...but this is a fighting game character so that's not really that bad. I'd focus more on evenly distributed polys and better edge loops.

chrisradsby · Jul 2013

You're spending all your budget in places that don't need that much attention. Like the stomach and the feet, you'd be better off putting these to use on the silhouette instead.

chudork · Jul 2013

got to lower it around 15k, forgot to remove the inner shoe area, which was really dense lol

chudork · Jul 2013

Updates! resculpted shoes, finished UV, some baking (AO, normals) basic diffuse and a quick 3pt light setup render in mental ray, all in a productive day, still needs textures, (skin

)his sword(s), maybe a better render using(marmoset maybe) maybe a resculpt of a couple of things as always comments suggestions welcome

render

wire

diffusemap

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

Those renders are kind of dark. Take a look at the presentation in some of the sites I have in my bookmarks:

http://cg-sammu.net/
http://power.cghub.com/
http://www.funkybunnies3d.com/gallery.php
http://haikai.net/
http://cargocollective.com/madina88
http://www.andyfoster3d.com/

chudork · Jul 2013

yeah can these be achieved by maya mental ray? some of these look like marmoset or max vray renders especially the the ones from cg-sammu

MattQ86 · Jul 2013

Yeah, it wouldn't be impossible to achieve similar results in MR or even in real-time.

oxblood · Jul 2013

i gota admit. That lighting makes the actual model looks 10x better. even though it is a bit dark

Shiniku · Jul 2013

Isn't this supposed to be a game-res model though? Why would you render in mental ray? A real-time solution always makes more sense to me if you're using normal maps...

chudork · Jul 2013

thanks oxblood

@MattQ86 still figuring out how get renders like that in mental ray and learning on how to use marmoset on the side which got me this,

still needs work and that weird seam issue keeps reappearing, which happens when i get further away from the model but does not appear when i do close ups

oxblood · Jul 2013

no problem chudork. that lighting isnt really working. try rendering in marmoset or even UDK

chudork · Jul 2013

yeah my last post was done in marmoset, still learning about it though

chudork · Jul 2013

@Shiniku just starting out with marmoset, wanted to see how it would like when I rendered it in mental ray

chudork · Jul 2013

weee finally getting how fix the problems in marmoset, still having that seam issue in the neck area though

chudork · Jul 2013

calling johnny done, learned a lot on making this character, still got a lot to learn especially about sculpting characters in general

a big thanks to MattQ86 for his links and crits which helped me a lot!
off to make my next character

Johnny From Guilty gear (Critiques very Welcome)

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