Impreza Attack Vehicle
Hi this is what I have been working on for my university final year project.
It will be an Off Road, Subaru Impreza Attack Vehicle which should end up around 20,000 tris maybe slightly more. The final model will be fully Textured and presented in UDK. I don't have much experience with presenting work in UDK so when it comes to it any pointers would be awesome. I'll be using this thread to display the work on this project and hopefully receive some helpful feedback to improve my work. Any useful criticism and ideas would be much appreciated.
heres a quick concept idea for the vehicle
heres a start on the base mesh.
some of the high poly modelling done on the front 1/3 of the car
sorted out the standard size arches so they'd fit an off road size wheel/tyre
did a test for an idea of how one of the panels could look when textured and sculpted this is just with diffuse, normals and specular maps. (low poly)
test panel with high poly so far
and here is progress on the roof mounted M2 Browning (high poly)
If you want anymore info on the project or you'd like me to post some of my research let me know, cheers.
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is that just on the gun or both? cause I've been thinking the same about the gun
Thanks
I'm excited to see this finished.
There are so many options , and if you take a japanese car, why dont you try a japanese MG ? There are so many interesting shapes which could make your model really stand out.
looks promising so far tho.
(Tires look insane wide I have to say)
If you plan on showing a close-up view of the weapon, you'll need to redo the bullets - modern bullets are almost always ogive, not conical.
Keep in mind that an M2 and tripod weighs almost 150 pounds when loaded, and has quite a kick when fired - you'll need to have some sort of bracing beyond just strapping it to the roof. A straight rod welded to the floor, with some jury-rigged braces, would work well for a pintel mount. You might want to chop-off the rear windows (making it look not unlike an El Camino), giving the gunner a bit more freedom of movement.
Armor can be as simple as a few sheets of steel welded to the body, not that a professional army would ever do such a thing to a HMMWV...
I have thought of a few ways to reinforce the roof to support the gun as clearly production cars are not made for that sort of weight and recoil :P
the office chair is great haha same goes for the armour plating.
In my write up I have given the vehicle a sort of back story/location.
The vehicle will be set in Africa, somewhere like Libya, Sudan or Somalia. Imported by an African Warlord. So I'm going to try and make it look abused and a bit of a DIY job.
The entire boot (trunk) will be removed for the gunner seat and lined with aluminium tread plate and there will be no windows at all.
and yeah you are right about the bullets, shouldn't take too long to fix
Thanks
yeah i've been looking at the rally version quite a lot. mostly thinking about getting the width of the arches in so the off road wheels would fit. Though i don't like the bodykit all that much i chose to base it more off a different one which still achieves about the same width and arch space
mainly looking at the added width down the side of the car and nothing else.
definitely raised suspension and i was thinking tyres similar to this Jeep Wrangler.
or this
as for the roll bars i was thinking possibly have them flow over the roof rather than inside the car also with a sheet of metal welded across the middle to give extra support for the gun.
any critique, comments and further ideas would be great.
I'm not a huge fan of the patches though, I can't see any purpose behind them, and they're too straight. Also one of them could block the door from opening!
@magic i see what you mean but it's not exactly made to be a vehicle which would pass any health and safety requirements, in fact I'd rather it was slightly dangerous and sketchy
thanks for the comments guys
more progress with the high poly
low poly is 12,994 tris at the moment though i'm fairly sure i'll be adding more back in to improve the silhouette
This link, http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/23-27/Ch3.htm, is to a training manual about installing M2 mounts, and provides more detailed images if you need them.
While you have spare gas cans, you seem to be missing extra ammunition boxes.
there is currently one spare ammo box but do you think maybe add another on the left?
cheers
The Jerry cans seem a bit thin; do they conform to the standard size?
After all, it's not like you're gonna need air-con riding into battle is it :P
Overall it looks good though, man
Final tri count is 12k.
this is how the vehicle is going to stay for now while i get my write up and other work done
UDK Renders
Marmoset Renders
Wireframe
Wireframe
3DSMax Skylight
Also, can you post your texture maps? Specifically your spec map?
Keep in mind that most techs are literally picked up off the street; they look almost identical to the other cars (aside from the massive guns, of course...) A truly dedicated builder might slap on a slogan or unit insignia, but they usually just leave them as-is. Take a look at this trio:
The paint and the lights look much too worn; keep in mind that warlords tend to snatch up the best vehicles for their private armies.
I think you guys are right though i did originally want it green, the only other colours i really tried were impreza blue which looked awful and dark grey which i felt looked the best but i wanted to try and make something more saturated work.
i'll have another go at finding a better colour soon.
heres the specular map and the diffuse. must admit i have had a lot of trouble getting the specular right which i still haven't managed. any tips letting me know what i'm doing wrong or what i can do to improve it would be great.
You could make a decent red background aswell, thats what I probablywould do. Put the lime yellow of the ammo boxes down to a more warm tone, it stands out by having the wrong palette.
I had a little fun painting over one of your images, red background works if you use it right, in this example i put the red away, and a hell more contrast but its not fine yet. Think about a new palette, its hard with the green main color.
Really bad crop and dont like colors but you see the difference
Orange, red, make it go boom!
firstly does anyone know why theres like an outline around the vehicle where there is no shadow? (UDK)
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Thanks.
The shadowing looks like AO to me, sure there's a way to turn it off.
Get some stronger highlights, and try more out with the ground. Your car is like all 60% grey, there is no contrast. Get a strong light in 45° angle so you get a proper highlight on your side. If it dosnt work good enough in the render engine, you need to change your textures.
If you dont manage to do it at all, then atleast increase contrast in photoshop.
You can also use the curves on your diffuse btw.
also made a better attempt at lighting hopefully, thanks for the tips Shrike.
you need to clean up your textures. they are visually noisy and have too many grunge overlays. this, in combination with no real material definition creates a dull, inactive texture. get rid of some of the overlays and focus on creating nice active materials, then add some nice, chunky localized details instead of flooding it with overlays.
if you're not using a viewport shader, now is the time to start. you can get active looking materials much faster that way.
I kinda like the leopard one aswell, it is cheesy ber definition but it fits with the raider theme, + the analogous color sheme works.
If you dont know so much about color theory, check out online tools like adobe kuler. Complementary is most important to know, that yellow thing is like a trap, always care if its a warm or cold yellow, thats a big difference and really common mistake.
i went through my diffuse and specular, deleted or took the opacity of each overlay down to around 8%. changed the cubemap as that seemed to be adding a fair amount of noise. added some bullet wholes as thats the only detail i could think of that would suit it other than scratches.
made the red slightly duller/darker. brought back the red cross on the front. made the yellow more orange and less saturated. Lowered saturation on the tires.
any further ideas or if you think i misunderstood any of you let me know