[WIP] Sci-fi Forklift

timotronprime · Jan 2013

I'm calling this done for now...

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Hey guys, I've been modeling a forklift (concept: http://cghub.com/files/Image/138001-139000/138867/099_large.jpg) and now I'm moving on to the shading/texturing stage.

Screens:
https://i.imgur.com/g6SJW.jpg

I am trying to do screencap in Marmoset this time and am looking for critiques on if my materials look right before I move on to texturing.

Parts that aren't finished yet are the seat, and the glass pieces (opaque black for now).

Spiffy664 · Jan 2013

rubber tires bearing immense weight seems counter-productive, some solid steel wheels as in most forklifts would make more sense, wheels like that would probably max out lifting crates of toilet paper at the grocery store :P

sweet modeling tho

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Spiffy664 wrote: »

rubber tires bearing immense weight seems counter-productive, some solid steel wheels as in most forklifts would make more sense

I'm not sure I understand.

1, 2, 3, 4 all seem pretty rubber to me.

I assume it would not be exposed though?

ikarus · Jan 2013

needs moar smooth edges
also, way too metal, when you model, model with paint on, like real vehicles, gives you better perspective

good luck & cant wait to see it finished

timotronprime · Jan 2013

ikarus wrote: »

needs moar smooth edges

Are you talking about not enough geo on round pieces (steering wheel for example)?

ikarus · Jan 2013

every edge in genral, use control surfaces, ( cuts, extra loops) will give the user the feeling that the edge isn't infinitely sharp ( thus more real)
this, obviously when you bake the normal map.

ikarus · Jan 2013

also i hope im not a bitch but the user has no frontal view ?

timotronprime · Jan 2013

ikarus wrote: »

every edge in genral, use control surfaces, ( cuts, extra loops) will give the user the feeling that the edge isn't infinitely sharp ( thus more real)

Noted thank you.

timotronprime · Jan 2013

ikarus wrote: »

also i hope im not a bitch but the user has no frontal view ?

Don't worry, every feedback is appreciated.

https://i.imgur.com/mkceL6.jpg
Here's the frontal view, a bit obstructed but I think it's alright compared to some more modern forklifts

160D-7E20-20front20viewjpg

ikarus · Jan 2013

well as a final creation it should have a layer of protection ( in this case paint since its a vehicle) you can add later on chips and scratches with a lot of specularity which resemble the metal UNDERNEATH, gives a better feeling overall.

check this out and have fun

http://www.game-artist.net/forums/spotlight-articles/42-tutorial-hard-surface-texture-painting.html

edit: ah very nice, now he/she can see

but what about protection ? ( just for the fun of creativity)
edit2:

well this is ugly but maybe you can use inspiration from this
http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/the_top_ten_tips_of_texturing

Oniram · Jan 2013

you're model is a bit off from the concept (that im assuming you used). as far as texturing goes, why not just paint it the same as in the concept.

http://cghub.com/files/Image/138001-139000/138867/099_large.jpg

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Oniram wrote: »

you're model is a bit off from the concept (that im assuming you used). as far as texturing goes, why not just paint it the same as in the concept.

http://cghub.com/files/Image/138001-139000/138867/099_large.jpg

I'm not texturing into detail yet, just getting the base material pass first.
Will get into the details soon

timotronprime · Jan 2013

You guys were right that it was way too shiny so I revised the materials a bit and put a layer of paint on it.

Also gave the seat a material, though I think it's a bit too bright now, which I will give it a tweak next.

https://i.imgur.com/N2UFuX.jpg

ikarus · Jan 2013

nice! realism seems to be kicking into this scifi machine:)

keep up the good work

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Day 1 of texturing, worked on the painted parts and the wheels:
https://i.imgur.com/iZeuSrbt.jpg

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Another update:
https://i.imgur.com/oR8TYfp.jpg

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Mostly done the non-transparent parts:
https://i.imgur.com/FB1kiSRk.jpg

roosterMAP · Jan 2013

i like the shot on the top left! really nice shapes!

it really is missing some AO. bake the AO of ur final (non-exploded) LP onto itself. and multiply it at the top of ur layer stack in photoshop. It will help a lot.

vikingfunk · Jan 2013

I really like the design, but it wouldn't function too well as a forklift. They need a low centre of gravity and large amounts of weight at the rear of the vehicle to counterbalance any weight you may lift. Sci-fi or not, those rules still apply. That's why all forklifts ride 2" of the ground and always have a bulky profile from any angle.

The weight you do have at the back of your forklift should sit a lot lower.

Also, I agree with the comment about the wheels. But would add that forklift wheels are made of solid rubber. The chrome rims are really nice, but don't make a lot of sense from a weight bearing point of view, particularly as the side walls on the tyres you have bulge out like regular car tyres.

You also wouldn't have any kind of ID numbers or anything inside a caution strip like that.

Hope that helps a bit. Keep at it. I think the idea is really solid. I love sci-fi industrial stuff like this!

timotronprime · Jan 2013

roosterMAP wrote: »

i like the shot on the top left! really nice shapes!

it really is missing some AO. bake the AO of ur final (non-exploded) LP onto itself. and multiply it at the top of ur layer stack in photoshop. It will help a lot.

Baking AO today after textures!

vikingfunk wrote: »

I really like the design, but it wouldn't function too well as a forklift. They need a low centre of gravity and large amounts of weight at the rear of the vehicle to counterbalance any weight you may lift. Sci-fi or not, those rules still apply. That's why all forklifts ride 2" of the ground and always have a bulky profile from any angle.

The weight you do have at the back of your forklift should sit a lot lower.

Also, I agree with the comment about the wheels. But would add that forklift wheels are made of solid rubber.

Hope that helps a bit. Keep at it. I think the idea is really solid. I love sci-fi industrial stuff like this!

I looked up some more images of modern forklifts and you are indeed correct. Thanks for the feedback, though I am currently too far in to make modeling changes now.

The arrow shows me that the forklift should be way lower than it is but I don't understand the red circles in your image though...

vikingfunk · Jan 2013

timotronprime wrote: »

Baking AO right now!

I looked up some more images of modern forklifts and you are indeed correct. I will keep that in mind for future pieces as I am currently too far in to make modeling changes.

The arrow shows me that the forklift should be way lower than it is but I don't understand the red circles in your image though...

Red circles were just highlighting the solid wheels and number inside the caution strip. (Updated my feedback after posting, sorry.)

timotronprime · Jan 2013

vikingfunk wrote: »

Red circles were just highlighting the solid wheels and number inside the caution strip. (Updated my feedback after posting, sorry.)

Alright, I will have another look at the textures in the rear.

Thank you for the notes.

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Today's texturing update, darkened the paint so it contrasts the metal more:
https://i.imgur.com/FB1ZN1H.jpg
Running out of ideas now. Need some eyes/suggestions while generating AO's.

timotronprime · Jan 2013

Worked on some of the transparent material, added some more shots to better showcase some spec detail: https://i.imgur.com/T1ziYa.jpg

BobtheGreatII · Jan 2013

I like this.

But I also feel like all the wear and tear stops once you hit the cockpit area, which is where I would imagine a lot of the damage and what not would happen, as the operator is climbing in and out of the vehicle all the time. But that's just my two cents.

timotronprime · Jan 2013

BobtheGreatII wrote: »

But I also feel like all the wear and tear stops once you hit the cockpit area, which is where I would imagine a lot of the damage and what not would happen, as the operator is climbing in and out of the vehicle all the time. But that's just my two cents.

This helped a lot as I was running out of ideas. Thank you!

[WIP] Sci-fi Forklift

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