Microsofts "IllumiRoom"
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Holy crap. When I first heard about this, I was unsure, but if the images in this video are anything close to real, I want one and I want one NOW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re1EatGRV0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re1EatGRV0w
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Dude looks like he's spanking the monkey at 0:15. And enjoying it.
I wonder if it would be performant for more recent FPS games..as there's a good reason frameratewise why they restrict the FOV to 70-90. Can anyone see what that game is?...I thought I saw a needler in there --maybe halo1/2.
So yeah, aside from those points...
The yare pretty much saying they are willing to render a good 1000% more visual data than normal, only now, it will hardly be seen as its projected onto your walls and stuff anyway? So a huge performance drain, for what exactly? For an effect that looks "ok" at best, and you wont even care about?
Sure, I see what they were trying to do, they want the room to be like the location you are in. I get that. It makes sense. But this is a long, long, LONG way away from the holodeck.
I was really hoping that next gen MS would maybe include something like the Occulous Rift as part of the package, so you had TV play and 3d head set play. That, in combination with the kinnect and the ability to still move with the pad if needed, would create some pretty damn interesting VR style plays.
Looks pretty cool to me as long as it doesn't need a conventional projector
From that so called leak document outlining the new xbox a few months back, it looks like the projector you are all hating on is suppose to be built into the kinect. like the kinect 3.0 or something
I'm down. When and how much?
Red Eclipse
there's only a second of halo footage toward the end.
It could also be good if your mates sending you an XBL message, could show up on the wall.
Or if you're a girl gamer, you could get endless 'can I see your tits' messages projected on your living room wall!
How many of you like to play games with the lights off? I know I do. Why? Because it lowers the peripherals around you so you dont see whats in your room. Immersion into the world. Dead space? I cant play that game with the lights on. So, if you already play with the lights off, then why not do this? It just turns what you dont want to see into more of what you do want to see. I highly doubt you`ll see any sort of UI on the walls. it will be too blurry, especially since it will entirely depend on whats in your room. Im sure devs will try and use it like that at first, but only because devs always do that. They get new tech and always try and force the game to use it, rather than doing what feels natural.
Even just using solid colours, instead of the game world, it could work. Say you walk into a room and an alarm goes off. a flashing red light.
As you look around the room in the videos you have to remember where your focus will be, the TV. It's like those 3D sidewalk drawing and you're standing in the wrong spot bitching about the perspective?
Because its a low res projection being thrown onto the wall it doesn't need to be highly accurate, like a lot of people are saying they can get away with doing a lot less in your "peripheral vision" while still adding to it.
It's not much different than rendering crappy low res cubemaps in realtime and it wouldn't take much to make that happen. Don't some engines attempt to do that now on ancient hardware?
I'll trade accurate realtime reflections, for this any day.
They are in the process of defining the hardware to run it so I don't think it matter that much. If this was an add-on to the existing xbox that are 7-8 years old I would worry about it stealing system resources but as long as they account for it and plan around it, it can be used in some really helpful and innovative ways.
As for the "get a projector same stuff right?" There is a big difference between playing on a giant projected image and having your TV be your clear window into that world while your peripheral vision feeds you much more basic info.
You might see a lens flare flash high on the wall next to your TV and you swing over to take a better look and see a sniper. If that was a projection you don't get a clearer picture, it just looks like crap and you have to track everything like you're sitting in the front row of a movie.
If you're in a driving game you might see out of the corner of your eye someone coming up on your side, rather than just be blind sided as they muscle their way past you. You aren't focusing on it but you know its coming, that's cool, and it will be helpful.
If someone tosses a grenade at you and it explodes, having your floor and walls light up with the explosion would add to the immersion.
bla bla bla...
If I can get that and they can manage to make the hardware affordable I say go for it. If you don't like it, shut it off, I doubt it will improve performance any, by design. Or don't buy it and just stick to other systems you think use their hardware more effectively...
I think it could be cool and I look forward to trying it out.
And no, as shown in the demo video, you don't need a white room with nothing on it. The entire point of the scanning was to find where things were in the room so it could adjust to perspective to look correct on top of your things.
If anything, my 'complaint' would be that your room would have to be a bit dark.
Engines don't always actively check and cull objects that you aren't directly looking at, maybe with some things, but too much checking can get expensive too. You don't want to be constantly checking the things they might see if they do a quick look.
Typically they cull objects on distance or by defined sections, visual groups, rooms or "portals". That all gets hashed out ahead of time as part of the compile process. When someone steps into a room the rooms that can't be seen get dropped. So what can be seen, even the things in your peripheral vision are still being rendered. That way its checking a list that already did all of the "is this room visible" heavy lifting. Most of the stuff in that room will stay there until you step into a room that can't see the first. So what is in your peripheral vision is "being rendered" just not shown, but now it is, neat.
Even if some small things get culled from your peripheral vision you might not notice because you're focused on the TV.
And if youre going to make it cover an entire wall Id prefer projecting the game itself on to the entire surface.