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Mongrelman · Oct 2012

Hi, thought I'd have a go. This is a quick, simple idea so far to give the general impression of what I'm going for.

Rik · Oct 2012

I like the idea of being shrouded in cloth, but the colors will help sell it. What is the staff supposed to be in the shape of? It's very scythe-like, and for a second I thought I was looking at a Necrolyte weapon.

Mongrelman · Oct 2012

Aye the colours will be very important, I think I can get some nice gradients on it. Basically I'm aiming for some large shapes with a strong colour choice (which I've not done yet) over something more detailed.

It's actually an african scythe (as found via google images). I liked the idea of him looking a bit like the grim reaper but a normal scythe didn't gel too well with him being a witch doctor, so the african version seemed to fit better.

Now I have to google necrolyte...

Mongrelman · Oct 2012

Trying to get most of this done over the weekend. Here's where he is at the moment.

JGcount · Oct 2012

Yes. Very yes.

I Think you Can do better with the staff though. Play around with some silhuettes

Mongrelman · Oct 2012

Cheers. I'll have a go at some more varied silhouettes. At the moment I just pushed the curves more and put in an idea for the lantern.

zephyri · Oct 2012

I like the cape and agree with comments on the staff.. maybe have a think about where he's wandered, and what he might have come across to make a staff with? Also, currently to me, he's not really retaining much of his witch doctory-ness.. maybe the odd skull (perhaps animals he's found on his wanders?) or voodoo-esque prop on the staff - I prefer the original almost dreamcatcher/evil eye prop on the concept to the hour glass. Definitely has potential to be cool regardless!

Mongrelman · Oct 2012

A few new staff ideas, leaning back more to tribal type stuff

Some Jerk · Oct 2012

The dream catcher and the snake staffs are the best me thinks.

agentfx · Oct 2012

Dream catcher, I agree is the most interesting.

JGcount · Oct 2012

nr2 works, yeah

Mongrelman · Oct 2012

Looks like dreamcatcher is the way to go (I like the snake though so will probably add that in too).

I decided to try and get something ingame so I did the lowpoly, UVs and some quick'n'dirty bakes. I managed to get my first, very crude model in, but the proper one won't go. It's 946 tris and the witchdoctor webpage, and workshop page, say the limit is 950. But when I try to import there it then says the limit is 450. I've tried to find where to submit this bug but can't seem to find anywhere

BrontoThunder · Oct 2012

950 is for the LoD0

450 is for the LoD1

Chaemirix · Oct 2012

The in-game geometry is what renders while playing the game. This is the lower of the two limits and only allows for 450. This is required for the file to be accepted by the in-game submission.

The optional portrait geometry is what shows outside the game when equipping items, and in in the portrait in-game if it's a helmet. This is the 950.

Both are required for the Polycount contest, but you only NEED the 450 one for it to be accepted by the game.

Mongrelman · Oct 2012

Cheers, I was getting mixed up and thinking the LOD0 was what went into the game.

Had fun stripping it down to 450...anyway, managed to get it in. Just has automatic skin and a normal map (and very crude diffuse). But it's a start.

Mongrelman · Nov 2012

I've been faffing about with the cloak skinning, fighting clipping issues so not much to show there. Got a few bits to sort out then can bake the maps again. It does look quite cool in motion as some of the existing bones are being used to mimic lag on the cloth.

In the meantime I started the staff today at lunch. Though I'd make the frame of the dreamcatcher a mountain goat horn.

Mongrelman · Nov 2012

Spot of work on the staff.

Mongrelman · Nov 2012

Did some bakes on the LOD0 mesh, still to bake the gradient.

Mongrelman · Nov 2012

Flat diffuse WIP in maya. Been having a major pain trying to ensure no clipping errors in the cloak and been having some issues with maya.

Andyk125 · Nov 2012

Looking great, love the snake

Maybe give the top of the weapon a bit more contrast, the detail is pretty hard to notice.

Farfarer · Nov 2012

Bear in mind, if that dreamcatcher bit is done using alphas (looks like it is) then you won't be able to use it on the Witch Doctor - he's not got alpha enabled.

Mongrelman · Nov 2012

Motherf.....thanks for letting me know. Even after you telling I couldn't find anywhere that said which heroes do and don't have alpha enabled.

So I redid the dreamcather, it's geometry now (duplicated and flipped normals. I think I prefer it actually as the design in simpler and bolder, and the more chaotic/less intricate design fits the staff and character better. It casts a cool shadow on the ground too. Just need to fix the issue where one of the bones on the snake gets rotated about 180 when it goes into game though, causing a massive twist.

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