UMP 45

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Here is a model im working on. Its an HK ump45. Currently working on the low. Here is what I got so far.

*EDIT*

current update

joshA · Apr 2012

thats awesome keep it up

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Here is my high poly zbrush render

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Here is my low poly 2.6k polys. I already see a few problem areas. Just posting what I have right now. Comments appreciated. Also, I would like some input on creating spec maps. I'll post my maps in a min.

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Ok so a quick method for getting a spec map that I picked up was to take the diffuse, desaturate, and play with the levels. I know this can't be correct so any help with that...or any of my texture pages/unwrap will be much appreciated.

Diffuse

Spec

Normals

maxivz · Apr 2012

change the black background

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Ok, so I decided to make a few changes to my model and I'm also going to try something different with texturing. I'm also trying to use marmoset for the first time but i'm having issues. Here is what it looks like on screen and the second image is how it renders. Anyone have any idea why?

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Ok so this project is due today. Here are some screen shots. They were taken in marmoset. Let me know what you all think and i'll keep it in mind for future projects like this.

Blaisoid · Apr 2012

here's what sticks out imo:

-super blocky right hand grip
-black stripes on edges (probably can be fixed by setting padding in baking options
to higher value)
-lack of optimization
-stretched texture on certain faces
-red stripe looks like it's carved in metal and it's almost glowing
-scratched areas seem to be too bright on diffuse map

maxivz · Apr 2012

Id say take a look at references for textring, it looks like its made of a completelly different metal.

Id say search the net for references and try to recreate it

nick2730 · Apr 2012

the overall hue/specular of the gun is too high. Is should be much more concentrated. The whole gun looks like a shiny metal pipe. The scratches are so random, and some are quite large, keep them to areas where wear would actually occur

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

better? I'm still working on cleaning up the wear on it so its not so crappy.

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

not sure what I was thinking before. that was noob of me to be so reckless with the textures.

sipher3325 · Apr 2012

Skummel · May 2012

Ended up real nice man. Shiny in all the right places! So right, I wanna touch it

nick2730 · May 2012

Much better,, well done

Joopson · May 2012

Looks good for sure, but you really overdid the "Polaroid" Marmoset preset. It hides your work. Show it, loud and proud!

Callesw · May 2012

Damn man

Nice update on the last render. I think you fixed what stood out as
the big issues.

I agree with Joopson though, about the polaroid preset. It makes renders a bit dull, and often hides a lot of detail. Hiding is not good

Maybe have a one more render that's a bit clearer as a good compliment?

sipher3325 · May 2012

Thank you all for the support. I agree with the Polaroid comments. I just started with marmoset the night before I turned this in so hopefully when finals come up i'll have some better renders and I'll post those up.

sipher3325 · Nov 2012

updated my weapon

-Em'- · Nov 2012

I don't know if it's me or the size of this last render, but it seems that the normalmap is inverted and not working properly... Am i wrong ?

Gazu · Nov 2012

Hey!

Looks cool but your Material looks like Metal, H&K uses for his cases almost Plastic.
I think ABS Plastic but im not sure.

JoshWilkinson · Nov 2012

Em might be right, are your normals inverted? Either that or you just got a really rough bake. But those normals are hurting your model real bad.

And Gazu is right about the material. The frame of the UMP is made of polymer plastic, not metal

Not sure about the magazine but it's most likely a blued metal so you should be good there.

Bertmac · Nov 2012

+1 on the normals
But also the hard edges bake has errors
And i still think that the scratches are to random and flat

getting better al the time,
Good luck

sipher3325 · Nov 2012

Ok i went back and fixed stuff according to your recommendations. I'm not sure im seeing what you guys are talking about with the normals. I did see some overlapping stuff in the bake but I believe i fixed that this next go around. The problem might have just been one of the effects in marmoset. I redid the texture to try to match the polymer used for the gun. This is what i got so far with just a diffuse and normals, im using the diffuse for the spec too but where do you think i should go from here? Thanks again for the crits.

sorry for the huge image i removed it.

S_ource · Nov 2012

I suggest to post smaller images like half or so the size, this big is not just needed in my opinion and makes it hard to look at. And using the diffuse for specular is not really a good choice even for test then i think its better with no specularmap at all.

JoshWilkinson · Nov 2012

Do you have reference images for the UMP? If not, jump on google and see where and how those things wear, since plastic can be tricky (for me anyway :P). I'd build a whole library of reference so I have options to draw inspiration from.

Also, a little presentation nitpickery, my screen, and probably most other widescreens, are 1920x1080. Most fullscreen monitors are 1280x1024. When you output you models at 6400x3352, nobody on here is able to see any more than 1/3 of the image at any given point; it's like being in photoshop and zooming in 300%. Selecting "no enlargement" within Marmoset's output would probably make it easier for artists to critique and for you to upload.

sipher3325 · Dec 2012

Some small changes

Racer445 · Dec 2012

invert your normal map's green (Y) channel

sipher3325 · Dec 2012

Ahh thanks racer. Here's another update. Out of time on this thing for now so ill have to stick with this.

Bertmac · Dec 2012

The last one is so much better
go on

Alphavader · Dec 2012

Yes nice update.. go on

Dont know if you forgot it or just wip
The safety-button has red information signs (like your images overhead)

sipher3325 · Dec 2012

Thanks for that alpha. I realized it but unfortunately have about 3 scenes I need to clean up and organize for presentation in the morning. =( ...i'll just say the owner had it custom made with no red =D

Bertmac · Dec 2012

Right, time to show some textures please

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UMP 45

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