Blowtorch

burtonyang · Oct 2011

Here's a model I've been working on based on a TF2 concept. I changed some of the parts and rearranged the pieces so it would look a little better if it was in FPV. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks.

alloa · Oct 2011

I like your concept.
Just 1 critic, in my opinion the concept shape bottle is better than the 3D model !

burtonyang · Oct 2011

I changed the tank to match the concept some more.

EDIT: Sorry the images didn't work before, I switched to using Dropbox as an image host and messed up.

Jessica Dinh · Oct 2011

shit sux start over

burtonyang · Oct 2011

lol Jessica.

I changed that area to have a softer edge, but I think it looks better when the tank is wider though because it won't look really long and flimsy.

Jessica Dinh · Oct 2011

Oh, ok, gotcha xD Anyway, this looks awesome, I especially love how you did the tape. Can't wait for textures!

megalmn2000 · Oct 2011

burtonyang · Oct 2011

@megalmn2000: Thanks for the crit

Here's the update.

burtonyang · Oct 2011

Finished my low poly, it's about 2200 triangles.

burtonyang · Oct 2011

Update, low poly model with normals and wires from viewport. Reduced to 2,076 triangles.

jordan.kocon · Oct 2011

This looks awesome man! I really like your highpoly. I am stealing the concept and making this as well >:) Hopefully this isn't frowned upon. Keep going, I'm subscribed to this and can't wait to see it textured!

wirrexx · Oct 2011

did you have to seperate the modell and bake mesh by mesh for the normal?

burtonyang · Oct 2011

@wirrexx: Yes, I separated the model when I baked. I copied the model so I wouldn't have to put the pieces back together. Hope that helped, feel free to ask me any other questions.

Prophet · Oct 2011

Very good concept. Nice work.

Bad Spleen · Oct 2011

Very good work. I would be tempted to add another edge loop (or 2) to the top of the cannister. The silhouette looks a little to 'polygony' at that part. Other than that, it's some good solid work.

burtonyang · Oct 2011

@Prophet: Thanks!

@Bad Spleen: Yeah, funny thing, i actually saw that and added another edge loop too. I'll post another update after I get the textures going, thanks!

BlvdNights · Oct 2011

Ooooo Me rikey....

burtonyang · Oct 2011

I finished my model, but what's the best way to create a scene for portfolio renders in UDK? I already went to the thread that talks about getting high quality renders, but as far as getting a good scene setup isn't there.

Mcejn · Oct 2011

If you're just presenting this prop, then think about giving Marmoset a go. Much quicker and you can get some great results.

burtonyang · Oct 2011

@Mcejn: I tried out Marmoset, but I don't really know how to use it, so let me know how I can improve my renders. It looks more accurate the way I envisioned it in UDK though since I used that to view my textures on my model through the process. Although it could be that I don't know how to use Marmoset at all too..

First one is a Marmoset render and the second one is a UDK view port screenshot. I think everything looks fine on the Marmoset render except the nozzle. It should look more like the UDK one.

burtonyang · Oct 2011

dustinbrown wrote: »

The trick to Marmoset is breaking your model up into pieces based on the shader that each piece needs. Your spec map can only get you so far, you'll need to tweak the shader properties to get that anisotropic highlite on the muzzle.

Nice work!

So I would choose the material in Marmoset that lets me use two materials and have the nozzle use a separate map (while having all the other parts masked off) so I could adjust the settings just for that one part?

And thanks!

Jessica Dinh · Oct 2011

Ooo, the Marmoset render looks wayy better than the UDK one - it would be great if you could get it figured out! This turned out really nice btw, I love the burnt nozzle.

Lonewolf · Oct 2011

i like both of the renders

cant say which i like better

looks really cool

letronrael · Oct 2011

marmoset

burtonyang · Oct 2011

So I went back into Marmoset and tried to play with the program more and I think that this new render looks more accurate to how I envisioned it to be. Let me know what you guys think, thanks. And is it me, or does Marmoset create a black outline around the model?

Wiktor · Oct 2011

Looks good! Reminds me of Borderlands.

Marmoset CAN render an outline, and you might have enabled it by mistake. It should be a checkbox for it under the Render tab. Just uncheck Outline.

burtonyang · Oct 2011

Thanks Disting, I couldn't find "outline" under the render tab unless you were talking about the "outline" in the view tab. But the black outline I was talking about is giving my model a slight cell-shaded look. It doesn't look bad, but I would like to know how to control that for my future models.

KyleJensen · Oct 2011

Marmoset render seems a tad bright. Overall this prop looks great though. Nice work.

burtonyang · Nov 2011

So I finally got around making some layouts for this prop. Here they are! These can also be viewed on my portfolio site as well. I didn't use the gloss map because Marmoset doesn't support it, but I made one along the way so I wanted to include it.

Torch · Nov 2011

Doesn't marmoset 1.04 support gloss maps now (I'm sure I saw a slot for it?) Anyway cool work, like the finish! I think the specular on the 'red can' could use a bit more work, but apart from that real nice

dpaynter26 · Nov 2011

that neck is still really sharp but other than that it looks great, that neck just bothers me lol

jordan.kocon · Nov 2011

Just put the gloss map into the alpha channel of the spec and marmoset will automatically use it. I am 99% sure on this one...

aajohnny · Nov 2011

Idk why. but I think the tank needs more shine... basically mentioned above. otherwise its nice. Good job.

Torch · Nov 2011

Jonny I think you have a point, my thoughts are it looks too much like plastic, still needs work on the spec map to have that 'metallic' look

burtonyang · Nov 2011

EDIT: Thanks for the crits. I wasn't really sure on some of the stuff in Marmoset still. I'll try and get some new renders soon.

@Torch and aajohnny: when you say needs more work and shine, are you talking about just making the specular for the tank brighter or something else?

burtonyang · Nov 2011

EDIT: Deleted.

burtonyang · Nov 2011

I took everyone's critiques into account and ended up with this.

Blowtorch

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