god of war III newness
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all in game, 60 fps., pretty impressive... but something with the lighting bugs me, i guess its always suppose to be overcast or something...the camera work in this game is nuts.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-chaos-god-of-war/61815
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-chaos-god-of-war/61815
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I loooove god of war and im stoked to play this but I know its something that will really bug me if its like that throughout. The ps2 games were gorgeous so im hoping this one is just as awesome.
If they did, fuck yeah, game's going to be awesome. Otherwise, it'll be good but I'll probably just wish I was playing Bayo the whole time.
Oh and the D9 demo was absolutely terrible, hope they made it better since then!
I think the only real drawback to that is replayability, because a huge aspect of how awesome the cinematic fighting experience is is how you've never seen it before. After you beat it, though, you know what's going to happen in all the fights.
That aside, that trailer definitely widened my eyes
Glad I didn't have to say it.
Atmosphere! - I remember when I had to climb out of a glowing red pit, with hands grabbing at me in 2............
I still look forward to 3 though. I can't wait.
so what do you guys think of the final product? Ive seen the reviews and visually it looks like they really improved the lighting from the e3 demo and it looks really fluid. gameplay looks more of the same but the other 2 were super fun so im not complaining.
Also it seemed like you can never appreciate anything the game because it's 150% adrenaline testosterone violence directly into the balls at all times with no pacing variation.
Have you ever played the games?
I agree with your other crits but this is outright not whatsoever true. Long periods of walking around, or dramatic changes in combat pace.
Same. Just picked it up at lunch (not the ultimate edition sadly) and am just counting down the hours til I can go home and start destroying Olympus.
this sums up my take on it as well
I wouldnt call it a rip off. More of an evolution. Besides, that intro was much better than most Bond intros I've ever seen.
Besides that, the game is pretty good so far,sweet graphics of course. The scale is pretty amazing too...They definitely nailed the feeling of making the world and the titans massive
Out of curiosity, how would you approach coding that?
if by a 007 opening ripoff you mean completely fucking awesome then I agree. they did such a great job with that, who cares where they got the inspiration?
it got me pumped as shit.
in the worlds of the immortal Millhouse (also known as 'Thrillho
"This is great, and all I've done is enter my name!"
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i think poop is referring to the lack of any color falloff in the shaders, or colored spec. i hear they are using all realtime lights and not really any baked stuff, like doom 3, and like doom 3, gow3 has a very similar feel, everything seems to be made of this monomaterial.
i think the number of dynamic lights they are using and hitting a solid 60 fps (except where they intentionally drop it) is the impressive part. for me, so far its been the sheer scale and amazing camera work that has my jaw dropping every 15 mins. you have to pick your battles in game development, and if i were to take a guess, i would say 60 frames a sec and a metric shit ton of dynamic lights were much more important to sony santa monica than fancy skin shaders.. but that is just my guess, i will comment more once i am a good way in..
haha not your cup of tea hun?
the lighting looks fantastic and most of the shaders look pretty nice expecially their water and ice. some things are kinda over shiny but the artistry on it is incredible in terms of sheer detail and the sculpted forms. really really awesome so far.
My console is frozen but the music keeps going. Same thing happened with Infamous and why I never finished it.
Reboot. Start up.
Same thing.
3 times in a row. I can't even get 5 minutes into the game. I have barely used my ps3. Movies play fine. Anyone got a clue?
I am not worthy. Oh man.
sorry to hear you're having trouble jesse. destroy your ps3 with a hammer then go get another one. it'll be worth it.
graphically, the game is really hit or ok. sometimes it looks fuck AWESOME and others it looks standard. but most of the time theres so much cool shit going on that you wont mind.
This happened with my copy of Infamous too, it would freeze with the textures still loading whenever I enter a new area of the city. Same thing with Uncharted 2
I know that the recommended route would be to send your PS3 off to sony and get the bluray lens checked, ast that seems to be the main culprit behind this problem. However, I have had some success with rebuilding my PS3's database..but that's a temp fix at best.
movies play great though with no pause or issues.... god damn it...
My God of Wars in the post
interesting read about the difference from the E3 demo to the final game
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-godofwariii-demo-vs-retail-blog-entry
from the shots it looks like they improved the shadow falloff loads but over done it with the bloom
BTW I am curious, what do you guys think of this?
http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/0/0/1/8/6/1/Lighting2_Final.jpg.jpg
Some objects in shadows appear pitch black, but the back of the character is very bright ... The funny thing is, I think the same screenshot from the earlier demo looks better and more consistent. Weird and interesting!!
Sure that might not leave room for ramp based shading, off screen light map blurring, or other complex skin shaders, but gummi shaders with offset R,G,B dot products are cheap as shit. There is literally no excuse other than incompetence not to get some kind of material variation in shaders on a fully funded fully staffed project. Prioritizing 60fps might mean less advanced shaders, but there are super cheap hacks that are near free in terms of gpu cycles.
It's *possible* that everything was so complex that they made an open decision to drop materials in order to get everything else working at 60 fps, but I think it's far more likely the AD either didn't know to ask for materials, programmers implied it would be too expensive, or the ball was just dropped all together and they went with the time tested art pipeline from before they had shader possibilities.
but i know the pain of going for 60, its one of the main reasons this happened
http://www.insomniacgames.com/blogcast/blog/all_categories/1503082
and i would like to say that no screen shot or video has really done this game justice, seeing everything in realtime is almost surreal, i would suggest people at least go to someone's house who has a nice tv and a ps3 and look at GOW3, its pretty awesome.
The upside is supposed to be you can do far more unshadowed dynamic lights.
Buuuuut This is all my speculation but I believe it to be the case since most things in that game appear to have the same material.
Aside from that the game is pretty awesome, I mean it's God of War. The scale is really impressive.
Friday can't come soon enough
Some combat was tough, but I'm always hesitant upgrading weapons. Only one puzzle frustrated me, a poorly placed camera hid a obvious answer. (was running around for 45 min's going wtf?)
Gotta slap myself for some basic Greek mythology for obvious storyline.
Overall I wanted more monster fighting and less puzzle solving hehe.
Guess since GOW III was a quick ride, maybe should pick up the Dragon Age: Awakening or FFXIII now :P
Btw you unlock "making of" videos sweet
I think Arsh has their thinking down. Screw skin when we have nothing but dynamic lights and 60 fps. Though 60 fps versus 30 fps with some specular variation would be a bit nice.
I am like 99% sure that ancient greek/roman/whatever everything in the world is covered with a nice coat of polyurethane.
thats not to say i agree with it, i just know where they are coming from. i still think they could of thrown some noise in the spec map or some type of pattern to break up the highlights, but man in motion on a giant screen, there are some very picturesque moments.
it was so pretty in fact that my wife let me keep playing, even though she is in deep on final fantasy XIII, her favorite game series. i was sure she was going to kick me off.
Clearly they aren't paying you enough if you don't have 2x ps3s 2x 65" OLED tvs, and 2x 6.1 Dolby Digital sound system in 2 different sound proofed rooms.
if they are using a deferred engine, it's possible to get multiple materials, at least approximated, using a deferred setup. I've been using this link while working on my practicum: http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/19/4
explains a route for multiple material approximation. if done properly could not even require any data for the material type to be stored in the various buffers. Not sure how well it'd work on the ps3 setup though.
Lighting is the one area that seems to be ignored somewhat. Bethesda games are notorious for bad lighting and Crytek is notorious for the quality lighting. And lighting is the one area that can really tie together an environment with the characters in my opinion.
At any rate the 2nd boss battle is amazing.
That first level was NUTS.
So far, it does skirt the edge of being a massive art show and less of a game, but who cares.
Like Uncharted 2, I can see myself playing this over and over just for the showmanship.
looks amazing though, will start my chaos mode play through soon
It turns out the system some how got corrupted and it was creating errors while playing games leading to the freezes.
So I backed up my system, formatted and played GOW3 with no issues. So I then restored my data and tried to play and had the same crashes. In the backup process it backs up the system data as well which is where the problem lies.
So I backed up (copied) all my game saves to a thumb drive and began the formatting again.
Copied all my game saves back and reconfigured my PS3 and played GOW3 for about 2 hours last night with no issues at all.
Even dropped in Infamous really quick and it worked without issues.
So there ya go. Saved myself buying a new PS3 or paying sony 150 bucks to repair it.
As for GOW3. What a sexy game. Violent as all hell. Everything I expect from a GOW game.
Something that stands out to me is the voice acting in the game. It just seems not on par with the rest of the game I guess. Like it was done really cheaply unlike everything else.