My first creature sculpt ( help and sugestions needed)

NAIMA

Hello I am making this as my first creature sculpt attempt at Zbrush , I am fairly new to the tool and a total noob so I ask a lot of questions around ...

I am not satisfied much of the result mainly because I reached the lev 6 subdivision and ... well doesn't look that detailed and precise as I wanted , may be is fault also of an uneven distribution of polygons of the base model as some areas I couln't even project any alpha couse looks fuzzy and low res compared ot other areas ...

Like higher res is the facea and lower res is the tail ....

Anyway how can I do to improve or make it better?

My plan is to export the high poly and then use xnormal to bake and port into skyrim game ...

Dragon

MainManiac

not bad at all, hit us from a straight on side and front view, and also press P to enable perspective and let is see one of those

NAIMA

Hello ....

here are some more pics as requested ....

Dragon pics

NAIMA

Btw Zendavis you have your PM message full...

Darkleopard

Wyvern* Nice work

NAIMA

Thankyou , Honestly I think that a "true" realistic Dragon shoudl be like that , with 4 legs and not 6 wich is what sometimes the Dragon is represented with ...

I have seen a documentary once that was about a possible creature dragon in reality ... it analized all the possible aspects of a dragon from the firebreath to the wings span etc ... it so mixed a lot of real creatures abilities and stated that a Dragon coudl possibly really exhist in nature under certain circumstances ... one of those was the need for 4 legs ...

That's why I like how they portrayed the dragons in skyrim , so I wanted to make my new Dragon version and variation from the game ...

I woudl appreciate tough any sugestions and help as this is my very first creature I am trying to do with Zbrush and I have some problems I woud like to fix as I stated in the main thread post ....

Dragon Pics

NAIMA

No sugestions? ...

Tobbo

The legs look too far back imo. I'd also choose a more organic material.

NAIMA

Ok but I refer more to the sculpt of the surface not the overall shape that I am fine with as it follows more or less the shape of Actual ingame dragons in the skyrim game ...

I want to be able to have more details on tail and so on ...

Kot_Leopold

Are you using any particular reference for your dragon? One suggestion I can make would be to sharpen up those details. Some areas look a bit smoothed over.

Reptiles tend to have scales that are quite crisp as seen in this image:



To sharpen up the borders of the plates you can use the pinch brush with a low intensity. It won't look as muddy after you do that.

NAIMA

I did actually but , when I do since the res is not that high it gets pixellated in details , and on some areas I can't at all couse the res is too low to pick even an alpha , I reached subdivision 6 and it doesn't go further unless I set increased memory , I coudl do that but then I fear I won't be able to export and the Zbrush will crash without beeing able to export the high poly for baking outside in xnormal ...

Kot_Leopold

In that case you might want to retopo your mesh. What's the topology now? If this was made using ZSpheres, chances are your geometry distribution might be too low in areas you need to be high and too high in areas you don't.

NAIMA

yes that's it but , means I should redo all by scratch?

dii

yes that's it but , means I should redo all by scratch?

Not necessarily, you can use reproject on your model to get the details onto the retopo'd mesh. You might lose some of the finer stuff but by the looks of the model you don't have much extremely subtle detail yet.

You only have to start over if your mesh is so high res that Zbrush crashes if you try to reproject it (learned this this hard way when I didn't bother to retopo a very very large dynamesh model until late in the game, also a dragon)

NAIMA

what if I cut pieces of the dragon to have more density?

dii

I wouldn't do that, you're much better off just doing a local subdivision by going to your lowest subdiv, masking off the areas you dont want to be as dense, and dividing.

http://www.pixologic.com/docs/index.php/Local_Subdivision

Retoppoing is still your best option though as it will give you the cleanest mesh.

NAIMA

Ahhhhh I wanted this ... Right this but I tought that this was not possible... This may do the jjob ... Btw using hd sculpt would still allow me to export the highest details too to use in xnormal?


Thannks a lot,,,

NAIMA

Thx , how about the exporting of hd features out of Zbrush? possible ? if so how ? ....

Darkleopard

Im not sure if its been mentioned (its late and i havnt read every post) but for lift, the wings need to attach a little further back, and a tad higher then where they are near that back leg