Head Modelling Topology

Le0n2

I'm attempting to model a head and I'm just looking for some feedback on my topology.

heres some screengrabs from max.











Any crits would be much appreciated, Thanks

Archanex

Not sure what your goals are for this model, but if you're strictly asking about topology, then you should check out this page..

http://www.hippydrome.com/MeshDesignFace.html

also Stop Staring has a lot of good theory, both of these are assuming that you want the face to articulate as opposed to just being a static mesh- and if that's the case then your topology doesn't really matter

Le0n2

to be animatable and i'm going to do some stuff with morph targets. Thanks thats a really good resource!

darthwilson

Look into examples of good face rigs and check out their topology. Prob the best solution I can think of!

Le0n2

Used that resource to come up with better topology and i've done some sculpting some more crits for this stuff as well please

Created two heads a male and female with the topology plan.


Male


Female



Some sculpting progress!

Male






Any help will be much appreciated really trying to get good at this, i'm going to be doing a body study next and hopefully get a good topology base mesh to build loads of characters from. Thanks again.

Le0n2

Some stuff i've been doing with morph targets Theres a slight problem with a seam the AO on the top of the head but that should be cleared up when theres hair on the model/texturing.

Male Wireframe and AO expressions

Female Wireframes/AO expressions



Ty for any crits

ah_lex

You've got an inequality in the size of the quads compared from say adam's apple compared to cheek, and if you can spend the faces on the philtrum and iris then surely you can find more for the eyelids that are very obviously faceted and could be improved in the sculpt and topology.

Neither of the head's are realistic, they both are stylised to an extent, I assume that's the intent.
The female character isn't very feminine, her eyes are too wide and almond. There's an error above her left eye where it's lumpy. You might want to sculpt eyebrows? The lips on both models are the weakest area shape-wise, you've also not put enough time into the ears, the shape isn't too bad but the surface looks like it's been poorly sculpted.
You've got quite a lot of pores but not really seeing motor wrinkles around the lips and eyes. Kill the female neck wrinkle symmetry, it looks lazy.

All that said it's promising and I like the male head, it's looking pretty nice.

Le0n2

An update.


I've gone back to sculpting to try and correct some of the problems you state ah_lex starting with the Lips.

ScoobyDoofus

Hey Leon, I think it'd be a good idea to look here: Polycount Wiki on Face Topology

Try to look at some more references and match your sculpt to those refs.

Le0n2

I have looked quite a lot at that thread and used quite a lot of references that wiki gives. Kind all of them have applied to my model but i have had some trouble getting it right. I'll work on the topology during the retopology, i'll post some progress.

ah_lex

That last example is much better but I think the shape of the obicular oris is not quite prominent enough. Its a bit flat with a central peak rather than more rounded. The edges of the mouth could go down slight amount although this is dependant on age a lot of the time.