[DS2] Mace, Glenatron

glenatron

Haven't posted on here in a good long while, but gonna give this damn fine contest a go.

Very messy concept, which needs refining, but gives the general jist of what I want to do. Started off as an 'angelic' mace, but beardy didn't fit well. I'm leaning more toward 'maker' now.

Edit edit: Here's the newest version

Konras

What time is it?
Adventure Time!!!!
Ok now seriously this concept is just awesome. Maybe proportions don't fit into proxy bounding boxes, but you will lengthen the handle and it will be golden I really like it.. no skulls, no angles, no typical stuff.
Looking forward to seeing more

Seirei

Man this concept is sexy!

Nice to see someone else doing a 'face-mace'. ^^

skylebones

oh man, didn't realize that the face was the backside of the hand. Love it!

*love the avatar. though I'm biased since I'm at CN.

BlvdNights

glenatron

Haha, loving the love for AT! Skylebones: I'm a bit jealous right now.

Cheers for the comments guys, and good point about the proxy. I've gone through and rejigged the shape, changed the colour scheme, and also improved areas like how the handle attaches to the business end/pommel.

Gonna be a new way of face-planting people. And jersey shore? Oh god, why!?!? Arrrghhhhh

mayamonkey79

very nice update on the concept, it's looking fierce! i'm interested to see how the sculpted beard fits around the sides.

ScoobyDoofus

Nice! I really like both of those. While they look a bit too Greek for Darksiders style, IMO I think they are awesome designs period, and I'd love to see either taken to completion.

Impala88

Now that's the hand of god! Awesomely sick dude.

EiGHT

I love the angel one.The transitions are nice.

glenatron

Cheers for the comments peeps! Yeah, I'm a tad worried it's getting a bit too God of War, so I might sling in some more jagged edges, and think about spikes on knuckles etc.

I'll be doing a quick doodle of the side profile before I begin to model. It's hard to show on the concept, but the curls from the beard will wrap around, and curl under the arcs of the fleur de lys. It'll change the silhouette a little, but if I'm careful, not drastically.

AimBiZ

Really nice idea but I think having the head there is overkill. The fist works very well for itself, and I think it leans closest to angelic which probably means you'll need to add yellow tones to fit the theme.

Konras

There are few things that you could think about in my opinion:
- a laurel wreath on head put it more to ancient Greek/Rome than DS2 universe, maybe you should change this element to some kind of angelic tiara or just metal plates for maker?
- swirls on beard and handle are to round, they should have more corners like 90 degrees angle.
- beard is wider than actual head, maybe you could make beard smaller or straighten it up? (removing swirls at the same time)

Looking forward to update

glenatron

I've adjusted the colour scheme. It's not 100%, but its a lot closer to the tone it should be. I've also change the fleur de lys to a winged bracelet, which needs refining, and added some more jagged edges (it'll be jaggedierer when it comes to meshing).
I'll look at replacing the laurel wreath at some point, but not really sure which way is the best way to go yet.



I've also done a quick sketch without the face, to see what people think.

Maph

Personally, I like it better without the face! Simple, and pretty damn effective.
This is great work man, keep it up!

Di$array

Maybe you could add the face to the crown on the pommel. Either way a really good design and I look forward to the outcome!

PredatorGSR

IMO, the face you have doesn't look very Maker-ish, the greek influence is a little strong. If you threw a helmet on it and tweaked the facial structure to have heavier features like a dwarf I think it would fit the Maker theme better.

glenatron

I'm gonna go down the 'angelic' route now, seems to fit well with all the swirlies and winged cuff. And if the head stays, the wreath won't, and the curls will be more jagged, so hopefully less greek.

Di$array: That is a top notch idea mate! I'll have to be savvy with the beard shape and reduce the detail, but it should just go down in size enough to fit on the pommel. Will give it a go in a bit.

AimBiZ

Yep, like it without face much better. Now you can see clearly from both sides that it's a fist which made the idea so cool in the first place.

glenatron

Schweet! You'll have to excuse the roughness of the concept, but wanted to whack this up here now, while I have a chance, then tart it up at a later date.

AimBiZ

It's still nice. Now get the 3D going!

BoBo_the_seal

Love it!

glenatron

Cheers for the feedback fellas! Consider it done. Now wheres the 3D-ify button?

POFFINGTON

This looks really fun! Depending on how you sculpt this I think you could lean it a bit more towards the DS2 style. Regardless great designs period. Can't wait for the progress!

glenatron

Thanks poffington!
Still need to chunky up some bits a bit more, but almost ready to take this into ZBrush

jeebs

wow this is an amazing work!

Daven

Oh, my body!!! Alright, so nicknames for this thing? Twisted Fister? Jeweled Jammer? Dwarvish Decorative Dick Demolisher? Help me out here folks. Regardless, I'm glad to see you really pulled the style off paper and into 3D. Kickin ass!

SouthpawSid

hahahaha major LOL @ Twisted Fister.

glenatron

Haha, theyre all awesome names suburbbum! I love the thought of someone making a weapon for the sole purpose of hitting dwarves in their junk. I really wanna call it Five Finger Death Punch, but I dont really like lawsuits.

glenatron

Pretty much finished sculpting this now. Still some rough areas, and need to scratch up the metal a bit more, but it'll do until I finish up the low poly.

Habboi

That certainly has knuckles. *cough*

I like the idea actually, it sorta has that cartoon comic book vibe to it.

glenatron

Cheers Habboi!

Done a quick first pass on the diffuse, and started cleaning up the ao/normal maps. Specular still to come, and a lot of tightening up etc. Any c+c would be grateful.

BlvdNights

I love the power glove....

glenatron

Thanks BlvdNights!

Done another pass on the textures. Only got tomorrow to work on this now, so let me know if you guys think there's anything naff, and I'll get it sorted. (I have tired eyes).

glenatron

New WIP. Almost ready to submit this sucka! Any thoughts peeps?

Daven

I think this could use a lot more material definition. Pieces like the metallic finger bits and the curly bits on the pommel read more as metal with the details but the color compliments are very muted and bland. Don't be afraid to put some darker golds in here. I think your biggest issure right now is contrast. You've got everything pretty consistent, but it needs a little spice.

BlvdNights

Agreed with suburbbum, I think painting in some lighting to define the material would help a ton, you're almost there dude! Looking great! The gradient is a nice touch.

Impala88

From what you've got so far i can hardly see the spec at all, unless you havn't put it on yet? I'd imagine the metal fist to be much shinier.

Also i'd maybe add some colour variation to the AO and some blends like the gold mace here:


See how it stays mainly gold but in the shadows it goes into a blue tinge. It's kind of the polarise render setting effect that you can get from marmoset but it'd be in the textures instead.

Dimfist

Yup just help define the materials a little better and its ace.

glenatron

Cheers for the feedback guys! I only had a teeny bit of time to work on this since the last update. I've tried to make the specular pop a bit more, without overcooking it. Wish I had the weekend to work on the diffuse a bit more, but alas I'm away so have to submit now.

Here's the final render

BlvdNights

Very impressive! This turned out awesome.

CidTheNinja

this was my favorite mace