Modo 601
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Modo 601 is now available, go and see the new features!
http://www.luxology.com/
Yay! I've been using 302 for years, and at last, we have character rigs and animation!!!!
http://www.luxology.com/
Yay! I've been using 302 for years, and at last, we have character rigs and animation!!!!
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If so, than I think I should start saving for this, while practicing working with softimage xsi.
Nope, nope never mind, Found this:
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I havent seen the texturing in Modo nor rigging but this system is pretty convenient.
If this product is as promising as it sounds than I can just buy this to start creating my portfolio and work on the small game projects that I have lined up (after doing a short term saving), and wait for the time when I have enough to buy Softimage XSI.
EDIT: I think I can get started by just buying their Educational version of modo for a year. =\
EDIT2: Nope, never mind I cant do that. I guess I can only save up and just buy the single license.
Got over excited there for a moment.
I really hope so. a little outside pressure for autodesk would be healthy.
I notice there are bend and twist modifiers now. anyone tried using these for general modelling tasks, like you would with the stack in max.
so i am wondering, with skeletal animations, can modo 601 be considered a complete 3d package and a true rival to max/maya/xsi? or are there still fundamental things missing?
i would love to switch to modo again. whatever new features they add, it seems like they do it better than everyone else
I think for games work it'll all come down to the FBX exporter. It was a bit messed up in 501 (with UDK at least). I hope they got it sorted out.
Character rigging/animation and retopology sound great. It also looks like there is some sort of basic modifier-esk system in place like Max has. Too bad there's no demo yet, and wont be for about a month or two by the sounds of it.
For those that have played with it, is it possible to export and re-use rigs?
Yeah, I had some issues as did a few others with Modo -> Unity on the Luxology forums.
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79254
Maybe it was a UDK or Unity thing rather than a Modo issue which somehow got cleared up with time and updates. I haven't been keeping up with either UDK or Unity so I wouldn't know.
As a modeler in the games industry, I can say that after 4 solid years of using Max, 4 solid years of using Maya, and a few years of both together, I was sold on modo after using it for 3 months. It's my modeling, UVing and rendering tool of choice. And it get's better with every release.
At work, quite a few artists have been interested in what app I'm using etc and why I use it, and after showing them why I like it, a few are learning up on it so they can switch over.
It's a bit of a learning curve, as it does some things differently, or has different tools etc. But once you get it figured out, you really start to appreciate it. Even things at first I didn't like and wished it was like Max/Maya, I have since come to prefer.
In my opinion, the real power of modo and they key to using it effectively is in customization. Once you understand all the tools, setting modo up with everything you need and want, right where you would like to have it, all the way down to the default settings on each tool (if you choose), you can focus 100% on the task at hand.
I would also say that if you are the type that likes to "stay ahead of the curve" and is always looking to take your game/skill set to the next level, this would be a good tool add to your arsenal. Not just for what it can do now, but what it will be doing down the road.
Anyway, a bit of a fanboy rant I suppose. I guess I'm still a little overly giddy about the 601 release
This.
after 8 years of using Modo and also using Max and Maya professionally I prefer Modo hands down. This release really puts everything on the surface and makes this badboy well rounded.
The bend and twist deformers have been in modo for quite some time but you haven't been able to stick them in a stack before now. I've used them in combination with fall offs when I've been modeling and have got some really satisfying results. Still waiting on construction history but the deformer stack is pretty powerful. You should check out Rich Hurrey doing a rig with deformers and it will demonstrate the deformation stack a bit.
jump to about 4:30
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There's a reason why modo is used by id software
(coming from a guy who has been using max for 10 years )
wish i could use it at work
Seems like it's really growing up quickly.
Question for the modo users: how well integrated are modo's sculpting and painting tools, does it work as seamlessly as the pr suggests? do you use them?
having all those things united in a single program is an exciting prospect.
I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to adjust the supporting flow of lvl 0, but that would be a huge plus too.
[edit] Wait a minute ... they have a "try Modo" page but no trial download available ?? Way to shoot oneself in the foot ...
The modeling tools were really nice and it was easy to get the hang of. I'll have to give 601 a go.
For sculpting like Zbrush the answer in a NO NO, and for painting, 501 sucks a lot, its tools are very very primitive and it gives me too many problems.
Another thing is how modo handles the uvs. We have linear a smoothed uvs (included borders). Max and the other apps does not have this, and with the imported displacement maps from mudbox or Zbrush, all it's a headache.
It's renderer it's fast and simple, and it CAN'T be compared with Vray or Mental Ray.
One of the big points is that you can model with the sculpting tools and it makes the workflow faster than in any other software. You can work with a high detailed subdiv model like in Zbrush or Mudbox.
I still use 302, i tried 401 & 501, and the perfomance in viewports fell down a lot. 301 offers the double of perfomance in viewports than 302 and i still don't understand that. I only hope to see that the new features don't bloat the app, making its load time slower and its perfomance more crappy than with 501.
Like all apps, it has too many flaws, but for subdiv modelling it's the best app, and you don't need a quadro like with Max, in order to work well with subdivs with millions of polygons.
I'm sure there will be a trial version soon
I use to model from a very basic low poly (boxes extruded), i adjust with the scultp tools, i subdivide, and then.. i refine the mesh adding loops, more bevels and some cuts. And i don't need more tools, all is done with some shortcuts.
Something like this, that can be done really fast, then you subdivide and you can use the pinch tool, smooth brush, etc.
On the left the level 0 with the subdivision turned off, and at the right the model subdivided x1 and edited a bit with the scultp tools.
Can't wait to try it all again, I'll try 301 while waiting for the 601 demo eventually. I am really looking forward to finding a nice unified way to spit out sculpted blockouts really fast. If Max had simple sculpting tool it would be all I need but I don't think Autodesk programs will ever go in this direction now that they are pushing forward with the Mudbox bridge connection instead (great for asset production but not so unified)
Exciting!
On a side note, what about the tool shown at 3:20 here ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zZal9aMnrO4#
This seems great to add quick, low fidelity details to a blockout. Any of you guys used it ?
That sounds pretty like i'd be happy with modo, then. definitely not a heavy user of sculpting apps, so cutting the 'middle man' out would be great
the viewport painting, any good?
how is the modo renderer? am i able to produce the same quality images as max or maya etc? are any other renderers supporting modo, like vray?
are the animation tools good enough yet to compete or will i still need additional software to get good results?
hows the particle system, cloth simulation etc. for vfx?
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I dont think there are other renderers that support modo, no, but the renderer is very capable. its very easy to use, but it lacks some of the custom things you would like to have, though. As for animation, I have no clue yet : D And cloth sim and volumetric particles were just added, so no idea there either : D
"While that shot was done in Modo, I found it just wasn’t able to handle a scene this complex. So it was off to my old friend Lightwave."
http://www.oddballanimation.com/archives/914
The trial page disappeared when 601 released. I downloaded the previous trial just minutes before
The default UV tools are not nearly as efficient as those found in Max 2012, but better then the defaults in earlier versions of Max.
Component sliding is really bad if you have more then one vertex/edge selected at a time, unless they are selected as a closed loop.
Splines are closer to those found in Maya (or Lightwave I guess) then Max.
There is no FFD for modeling or cage support for baking.
Convert Selection between component types requires an entire component to be encompassed before it will be selected (so if you wanted to select a face all of the verts it was made up of would need to be selected, not just one).
Has the same problem as in Maya where you'll sometimes get double-edges.
paint has stencils and stamps, but no proper layers (you can use separate maps stacked on each other however to emulate layers with no blending modes) or projection painting via an app link.
From what I've read none of that has been changed in 601.
One neat feature is the file browser used for kit bashing (Layout tab). You can just drag/drop meshes from it directly on to the surface of others in the scene.
I've never used max's path deform for a real job, ever. So I'm good I guess!
Still, the only reason I might not like modo 601, is if it turns out buggy as shyt! We'll see...
not that it would affect me much as a game artist, but for everyone this is a big issue.
might just be something that'll get fixed soon, tho