[DS2] Mace(?) - naruSol

naruSol

Current stage of the concept:



Some polygons:

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Not sure if I or my laptop are up to the task, but I'm going to work on a concept anyways. Here is the first that came out, though i'm not sure if it might be too understated for the game's style.



More to come

- Vin

Habboi

No I think you did a good job matching the style. I think it's very clever how you've used the wings to form the blades.

Saman

Ah, an angel wepaon. You should exaggerate the forms more though!
Those blades could be bigger etc.

naruSol

Something completely different, but with promise I think:

ScoobyDoofus

I like the first one better, but just generally...think bigger/more epic/crazier.

Di$array

yeah the first design is the strong of the two.

naruSol

Another in the angel vein, riffing on some shapes I saw in another thread:

lefix

i really like the idea of the first. imho you should work on that

naruSol

Still sketching. Decided to do something "obvious" exactly because I usually avoid the whole skull and chains thing as much as possible. I actually kind of like it.

naruSol

Continued riffing on the angel axe above:

naruSol

Tried a few more on the darker side:

naruSol

one more

naruSol

Feedback is very appreciated. Im just kinda shooting into the dark here hoping something jumps out at me.

zeroSlave

You've got some good concepts here. I personally like the second image you posted. Looks like a demon just got axed in the back in midflight and someone decided to not clean it off. It's got a cool flow to it. I like the crow hammer. I have had a super hard time coming up with an idea for that genre. I also like the third image. Could look cool if it was done as a three sided mace?

naruSol

Thanks. Yeah. . . I've just seen so many of those radially symmetrical maces that I'm trying to find something that will stand out a bit more. I did revisit that second sketch though, this time as a sledgehammery thing:

Blaisoid

i like the first axe from this pic:
http://www.venardhi.com/sketches/darksidersrandomaxes.jpg

while 'demonic face' is a common cliche in this contest, this take seems slightly more original.
the weapon looks like a mix of mace and axe though.

crow hammer looks nice as well.

naruSol

Thanks. Maybe I'll revisit that one. I couldn't quite figure out where to go with it. I just noticed that the crow hammer looks a lot like another sketch in one of these threads, so that one probably won't be the direction I head in.

naruSol

Revisiting the original mace, since that seems to have gotten a pretty good response. I've tried to give it a more complex shape to make it stand out a bit.

Impala88

oooh yes! the dual wings really give it more volume. Pommel doesn't seem to match quite yet though, the sharp angles clash a bit with the feathers. Maybe add a few feathery sections to it but keep those angles?

Handle might be a bit thick too, not sure though, mines way too thin so it might be just that throwing me off.

naruSol

Yeah, I just kind of threw that pommel on there. Something is off about the macehead though, I think it is just too narrow at the moment. going to have to play with a way to give some more horizontal mass without losing the concept behind the seraphim wings.

naruSol

Before I spend too much time trying to refine old ideas, I want to pursue some new ones. This one jumped out of me earlier but like most of the rest everything below the head needs a lot of work:

ScoobyDoofus

Yeah Naru. This is more like it. I really like the last 2 and figure if you went with either and executed really well...could be epic.

Maybe make the wolf/monster head thingies a little more demony, and maybe see how wraps look on that handle.

naruSol

The idea was "Cerberus" (thus the trilateral symmetry) so I think they're about as demonic as I'd want to take them. Refining the lines a bit to be more angular(as I intend) will probably push it further in that direction though, so I'll just have to see how it evolves.

naruSol

Refining the shapes of the haft a bit, and playing with an idea for the color:

naruSol

BTW, would ya'll say this works better as a Core or KotD weapon? My next pass over I think I'd like to take it in one or the other direction but I'm having a hard time nailing down where it fits in the grand scheme of things.

naruSol

Did some pretty major tweaking on the haft and pommel, think I might just be about ready to attempt some modeling. The grip is still the weakest part, so I'd love to hear some thoughts on that:

ScoobyDoofus

I think you need to be cautious about the grip/pommel/haft proportions. I really think you should make the grip longer, and shorten the pommel & haft.

naruSol

Aye aye Kieptin:

naruSol

New color thoughts. I've started modeling but it is nowhere near presentable yet, mostly playing with color to decompress from all the grey polygons.

Daven

Looking awesome man. This has come a long way. I say start modeling!

PredatorGSR

The faces look a bit doglike to me, I'm not sure if that would fit with DS2 that well. If you threw some horns or tusks onto it I think it would benefit from having a more aggressive look and fit in with the demon theme.

LuCh!

looks awesome!
although Cerberus is greek myth,
don't know if they would like that since the theme is more christianic with angels and demons,
ask BoBo?

naruSol

suburbbum wrote: »

Looking awesome man. This has come a long way. I say start modeling!

Heh, I'm trying. I swear I knew how to do this at one point. Feels like I'm learning how to walk again.

As far as Cerberus being Greco-Roman rather than Abrahamic, Meh. It doesn't have to be Cerberus literally, Odin had "Hell Hounds" too, and such things are pretty common in Hellish iconography. Plus. I rather like it being being something other than a spiky demon head considering their prevalence in these threads so far. Doesn't seem to me they're hewing too closely to the actual Biblical text anyways. More of a creative reinterpretation of specific aspects of Revelation in particular. At least that is the impression I get.

BigK

I honestly think this is my favorite so far. Looking forward to some models.

JamesWarren

Really cool concept man. I feel like the paw at the bottom could be a little bit beefier, maybe it could be clutching onto something instead of being at the very bottom? I wouldn't spend too much time on the concept at this point either though. Looking forward to seeing how this turns out!

JVaughan

This is really improving every step of the way. Now lets see that model.

pseudoBug

Dude. I don't know if it fits in the darksiders theme or not, but it's one of the most interesting designs I've seen so far. If you did want to make it conform more, I think most of your design really fits angelic style.

Honestly though, I'm sick and tired of looking at horns, skulls, and angel wings. So thanks for coming up with something different to look at!

BoBo_the_seal

Love the design! Unfortunately, we don’t have any reference to Cerberus (which is what this says to me) in the game. This is much more God of War like. Just swap out the dog heads for demon heads or make them canine skulls (we do a lot of animal skulls) and you’d be good.

- BoBo

naruSol

The seal has spoken. His will be done.

naruSol

Preliminary revision:



Right now I have the "smoke" coming up through the lower jaw to make it a bit more solid but I'm not sold on it yet, Thoughts?

Japhir

Great implementation of the critique! Very nice design too.

pseudoBug

Did a quick paintover of some possibilities.(hope that's ok.)

First off, on the skull I think you need to exaggerate it a lot more. More angry brow, bigger teeth, harsher lines.

Also thought that removing the mandible might clean up the design a lot and make it feel a little more solid.

Just Ideas.



*edit* not sure if this really helps it look more solid. Starting to like the jaw version better now. Meh. I'm no help. :P

naruSol

I'll probably make the jaw as a separate piece so I can play around with it. I have an idea to use the smoke shapes a bit more in the top along with the skulls. I also need to replace the pommel now that the dog heads are gone. Getting to work on modeling the skulls some more today and hopefully will be able to post that and a more finalized concept later tonight or tomorrow.

naruSol

Base mesh of the Skull is about done I think. We'll see how I feel about it in a few hours:

pseudoBug

One thing that I would suggest if possible, get some instances of this piece arranged in blocked out mockup of your weapon. Why? you might spend time tweaking something to look good as it sits from a certain perspective, but in the end, it might look wonky or wrong in it's assembled state. You can eliminate work by checking as you go.