Leixia - Soul Calibur V

ironbearxl

Working from the Soul Calibur V concept art. The in game models obviously have a different style, so i'm not really using them as reference.



Progress:

Dylan Brady

great topo, the eyes look a bit scary to me, but I realise your going for that Anime look.
anyways lets see it textured :T

ironbearxl

TY Bonebrew

Almost finished the modeling, and I have a few edges left to turn here and there.

nicafornica

dat ass. looking nice however in the last shot, the face looks weird. I would add more cheekbone like in the concept. Eyes are fine, a tad big but fine. the problem for me would be the cheeckbones.

ironbearxl

Good catch nicafornica, i'll give her more cheekbone.

marq4porsche

I think it's a good start and your topology is sound. The face looks like it has really no cheek and the eyes are too large even for the concept art. My understanding is that she's about 15 so maybe make her a bit smaller looking, her upper body looks big and bulky imo. Smaller shoulders, ribcage and chest could really help.

Here are some more concept art images, maybe you have them already.
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ironbearxl

marq4porsche, ty, good points. I agree about making her proportions smaller looking.

haikai

A lot of the weirdness in the face is because the eyes aren't recessed enough. She's got no brow ridge to speak of, and there isn't any indication of eye lids (both top and bottom). Stylized looks can be deceiving, but there's actually more real anatomy that goes into making it look right than you might initially think.

vavavoom

nice job i have been trying to make a game character, so i have really been really interested to see your progress. i like the clothes details & hair.

Tigerfeet

I disagree about the eyes popping out too much. Instead of the eyes too far out, I think the bottom of the face is too sunken in. I did a quick paintover to show what I mean. Mostly I brought the bottom of the face forward and filled out her cheeks and her jaw a little. I tried to keep that anime look though.



I think the rest of the model is done quite well I can't wait to see this start getting textures!

ironbearxl

haikai, understood, thanks; btw, there are loops behind the eyelash meshes so the eyes can blink.

vavavoom, cool, I hope this can help you with your character.

Alexis, I brought the cheeks and chin out some, and did recess the eyes back a bit. I think what I have now is inbetween your paintover.

I'm finishing packing uv's now, and about to start baking AO.

ironbearxl

Finished uvs and baking She has 3 texture sheets; a 1024, 512, and 256. I'll probably have to duplicate a lot of the hair pieces to make them look fuller.

ironbearxl

Ok, I blocked in colors and setup shaders in marmoset. But, I think her hands might need to be much bigger.

BARDLER

Her eyes make her look like a robot, lol. I would look more carefully at combining real human anatomy with the anime style style eyes in the reference you posted.

marq4porsche

Looking good so far but her eyes are far too shiny atm. That and the area around the eyes looks a bit too recessed and not natural looking.

ironbearxl

Thanks for the crits guys, very helpful.
I adjusted the face some more, and I'm pleased with it now.

garriola83

i dont mean to sound harsh but that head shape is still off. it still looks like her chin is sinking into her neck. and theres still something off about them eyes. they looks like they're about to pop off the head.
good luck

ironbearxl

Maybe I've been looking at her too long because I'm not seeing that at all.
idk, i'll finish the textures and come back to the head afterwards.

Sukotto

Could we see a side view of her head? That may help

Alemja

I did a quick and dirty paint-over that will hopefully help a bit, the main problem is that the lover half of her face is recessed too much. I pushed it a little more into stylized territory than anime, defining things a bit more...which may not entirely be what you want, but I still hope it helps you see some of the areas that are being problematic

ironbearxl

Alemja, thanks!

Front and side view:


I took a minute and moved her eyes closer together and adjusted the eyelash shape a bit.
I think the chin in your paintover is too pronounced compared to the SCV concept, but it still looks cool.

LRoy

Turn off the skybox image for all these WIP shots. Makes it difficult to see what you changed with such a busy background

vavavoom

this is my attempt at some kind of modeling advice, so here goes..

i reckon the problem being mentioned with the chin and maybe eyes, face looking off, might be to do with the angle & position of her head/eyes in the pose.

i tried to tilt it back and shift it back more in line with the shoulders in the paintover.



i think, before, her head was pointing down/leaning a little to much forward with eyes looking up & ahead, making it look a little off.

i found that, if you start playing with changing the face when the basic head position/rotation is out, then it can really mess things up and make hard work, when it might just need a simple tilt or shift back.

maybe the eyes will need rotating down to match the head titled back more (if you try it).

i am a complete novice to modeling, but i hope this is helpful, as i felt i should try to be of help after all the help i received from others here

ironbearxl

That helps vavavoom, ty.

I'm trying a different approach to the body now, and applying the suggested changes.

Poribo

I think the head is too small or the body is too large.

Snader

Her head is kinda shaped like a hazelnut. That's probably not how it's supposed to look.

vavavoom

i don't think the head looks too small. i really like the proportions, but maybe seeing a front/side profile pic would be helpful.

Poribo

vavavoom wrote: »

i don't think the head looks too small. i really like the proportions, but maybe seeing a front/side profile pic would be helpful.

In the Zbrush pic, the head looks smaller than what he modeled before.

urgaffel

It looks like her posture makes the head tilt forward which also make it look like it's a little bit small. Doesn't do the eyes any favours either

Crap paintover attached to show what I mean with the posture, could be that the shoulders are a bit too far forward as well, giving her a hunched look...

ironbearxl

Thanks guys, I scaled the head up a bit, here's a front/side view:

ironbearxl

I'm removing tris from the lowpoly meshes and blocking them in.

ironbearxl

Saman

Oh, cool. I like where you're going with this more than what you did with the previous character. A nice touch of realism in the face, you could go further with it though and define the parts above her eyes, make her eyebrows more slim and perhaps reshape the ears a bit.
I very much agree with haikai, realistic anatomy is essential even for these kind of stylized art designs. Most artists in anime/manga studios have backgrounds in painting/drawing realistic stuff anyway which is what helps them manage so well with the anime-style.
Nice stuff.

Tigerfeet

I'm so glad you rounded out the cheeks, and tilting the head up so it's level helped a bunch as well.

ironbearxl

Goraaz: Thanks! And I agree; haikai made a good point. Ill define her eyes/eyebrows and reshape the ears (i just quickly blocked in the anatomy of them).

Alexis, it was like a revelation once I rounded out the cheeks. And ty to vavavoom and urgaffel for pointing out the head/neck posture.

vavavoom

wow! looking better more and more. good job

PaulP

Hey I like what you've done so far, looking good! I saw this (link below) the other day, and I think the artist did a good job of combining a manga shaped head with realism. It might give you some ideas:
Catherine by nianzu Zhang

garriola83

Hey, just my two cents here.
Her zygomatic look too bloated at the lower outside of the eye. If you flatten that down a bit, the silhouette of her head and that cheek bone to eye area would look better.
Consequentially, you might want to bump up her supraorbital, thats the area around the ends of the eyebrows. There should be an overhang of flesh there. Once you do that, it will make the area outside the eyes recede more into the head, which is also needs to do.
The bridge of the nose needs a bit more mass vertically. It seems to taper sharply as soon as it meets the glabella.
Also, may I suggest widening the mouth line more?

That is all. Good luck!

ironbearxl

Thanks guys!

garriola83, thsnks! I see you know your anatomy terms lol.

I fleshed out the legs and started wrinkling the clothes.