Back to the basics (Fire Hydrant prop)

Justin Perreault

Hello all!

I'm taking a step back from characters to work on some props and eventually a whole environment

This is exciting since I have not worked an environment since school so I'm excited for the challenge.

Here is a base mesh of a fire hydrant I've made in Max. Going to do some sculpting before I move on to textures.

papagersi

oh yeah.. I've done like this, it was also more exciting than what I've done for character haha.

mixeh

just make sure you don't copy jeremiah bigleys fire hydrant

MiAlx

Mixeh, it has similarities but its not exactly the same (i mean it's a fire hydrant). But i see your point.

btw here's Jeremiah Bigley's fire hydrant

Justin, go for it.
What are you going to do after the hydrant?

Mistry10

nice HP bro ! i really wanna see the textured version soon :P

Justin Perreault

Thanks for the input everyone. Valid point, how ever keep in mind this is a pretty common asset. There are only x amount of hydrants. i'm just following my references:)

I apologize about the lack of update, went on a hiatus on this one to finish some other work. Here is an update on the sculpt. Texturing/baking next up

Mistry10

Great work buddi ! I love the paint stroke details !
I wish you started making environment art earlier.
Now i want to see your textures sir.

"welland" nice ;p

S_ource

Looks really nice and i really like the detail but i dont like the lines where you cane see where you have sculpted, i dont know if it is as mistry10 says that its suposed to be paint strokes but i dont think they paint them with brushes and if they did i dont think it would look that way.

Justin Perreault

Hey man valid point. Were you speaking of the type of stroke? or more so the direction? Here's where I saw it in my reference

Computron

Did you use a procedural noise on the hydrant?

wasabi

This might sound weird but that's probably the sexiest fire hydrant I've ever seen..

Paul Pepera

Why put that prop into Zbrush just to get some surface details and embossed text when you can achieve that much faster and more efficiently by laying a detail map over the normal in PS, or even adding a bump map to the high poly and baking that down?

jeremiah_bigley

MiAlx wrote: »

btw here's Jeremiah Bigley's fire hydrant
Justin, go for it.

+1

I think you should go for it as well. Don't forget to find the textured one and use it as inspiration.
Did want to say that I think some of your edges are extremely sharp for what would be a game asset. There readability is going to go down when you start getting too far away. Especially once cast. I agree with Paul and was also wondering why you went through the effort of sculpting on the highpoly. It makes it a lot harder to deal with for casting and bringing it back in the package when all the detail you sculpted could have been done in Ndo, Xnormal filters, Nvidia filters, ect. Seems a bit overkill to me to go to that level of complexity for the level of detail sculpted.

Justin Perreault

I've been doing some hard surface tutorials for zbrush and wanted to try them out on this model. I also intend to do some polypainting before going back to max more majority of the diffuse. For certain things I feel I more control. I don't do very much hard surface at all so I will do what you suggested in the future for these types of things. So thank you for the feedback:)

Justin Perreault

Here is an update with the texture. I feel I'm still not the strongest when it comes to a good spec/spec color map. So I'll post it aswell for crits.

Four6810

Love how the texture looks, but the seams on the valve parts are distracting. Also, the tonal value is different from the rest of the fire hydrant.

Mistry10

Hey man, looks great !
I agree w/ Four6810 about the value and seam problem
only suggestion would (maybe) try to see what the spec colour looks like when its blue

emrfish6

I wish i had this kind of talent

Ack Master

beautiful work zbrush work. I see enough of these and its always the same sorta texture treatment. there is a bunch of black noise in that diffuse, alot of noise. Its actually very harsh to look at. other then that over all its very nice

Korrax

How much did u multiply the AO over ur diffuse? Id kill it down quite a bit, because where the edges meet up its way too dark which I think makes it look unrealistic.

Edit: Also can we see wires on LP. how many tris you at?

Justin Perreault

Here is the final. Thanks for the feedback and fresh eyes. :poly142:

@Four6810: Agree'd! I didn't notice until you said it.
@Mistry10: Thanks buddi! You da boss!
@emrfish6: Thank you that is very flattering. I think the same thing when I browse these forums. Just keep working forward and don't compare yourself to much to other artist. Just work hard on every asset and be honest with yourself. You'll keep getting better, better than this hydrant in no time.
@Ack: I toned it down. I went overboard. Still might be a bit much. Let me kno what you think
@Korrax: This pupper is weighing at 2,230 tri.

Ack Master

Thats way better dude, looks like you took the sharpen way back, much smoother and metal feeling much less black too that stands out to me

this thing would look KILLER with a dust pass. in the ref there is some grey on the bottom and bit on the top and dust pass is just an easy way of putting that detail in... just bake a diffuse map witha red point light above it method. you can use the light an mask it with some grey and ta-da.

great job

pinkbox

looks good! im glad you got the valves to blend in wit the rest of it.

my only crit is it may not be red enough.. or if its faded paint then it the gloss needs to be turned down to make the paint look a bit flatter

heres some images to show how i mean :P


all shiney new red paint


dulled down faded paint

Mistry10

dude, it looks sick.
Now get to work on ur next project !!