Contact Details for Brothers Grim

swelt

Hi - this might be a bit of a long shot. I'm looking to get in contact with Mike and Bill Jukes, aka Brothers Grim. They made a bunch of awesome models for Quake 3 (amongst other things), and I am looking for their consent to repackage a particular set of work they did, but don't want to proceed without permission. Their website - www.mindlessgrafx.com - appears to have changed ownership. I've spent a bunch of time googling to no avail, but thought perhaps someone in the polycount community might know what became of the Brothers?

If you have a current email address or a means by which I might try to contact them, please send me a pm. Thanks!

Adam L. Gray

repackage a particular set of work they did

If it's something already present within a game, then no way, forget it

doc rob

The last email I sent to them was in 2001, but that was to the same domain, so no dice.

2001? holy fuck I am an old fuck

Justin Meisse

doc rob wrote: »

The last email I sent to them was in 2001, but that was to the same domain, so no dice.

2001? holy fuck I am an old fuck

holy crap, I still have my Brothers Grim shirt somewhere!

swelt

Adam L. Gray wrote: »

If it's something already present within a game, then no way, forget it

I think what I'm proposing is fairly legit - repackaging some models they did for q3 team arena to work in a regular q3 mod - all non-commercial, but still something I'd want to get permission for first.

Jeff Parrott

Yeah no idea. Most of us that were around here then are in retirement homes or dead. Try linkedin stalking maybe.

ScoobyDoofus

Swelt, I think you're talking about the Team Titans pack right?

Ogro-Fix, Dark Horizon and myself did the textures for that...so technically if you wanted to use the textures you'd need all our authorizations as well I'd think.

leilei

I recall it being repackaged for Loki's Revenge CTF though. I think if my memory serves me right. If they got authorization it's possible for you to as well, much like Jailbreak's use of a nude Conni (renamed to something else)

Their purpose suited well for a general team arena model for those who didn't own TA and wanted to play mods that used the whole TA codebase. (probably because it was the only custom TA model ever made)