Wow that sucks, I agree hit them all with some strong tranq's move them to a near by zoo or something.
that none of his deputies are equipped with tranquilizer guns - & - We had about an hour, hour and a half of light, and we just couldn't take the chance
So then It makes sense, sounds like he didn't want to give that order.
But if they did get away and were in your back yard and didn't hear of this news, you'd be dinner.
Never the less terrible, why did he have them in the first place is the real question.
It's surprising and terrifying at the same time that people are allowed to keep dozens of wild animals as private entertainment And half of them seem to be endangered species.
Hell, even ideas of zoos seem outdated to me. I can't think of single positive experience or entertainment value looking at caged animals provides.
The article seems pretty legit at explaining why they couldn't all be conveniently tranquilized. I don't really think it's fair to judge the guy making the decision as some sort of evil guy.
What does seem terrible is why the owner was able to own so many animals, and why he felt letting them run wild and killing himself was something he felt was right to do.
I think the guy purchased all those animals for the purpose of them wreaking havoc upon the general public and killing himself was a way to escape the consequences for Letting them loose and owning them all
Buy beasts > Set them free in a populated area > LOL From the grave
Since just about all of them were caught his troll was unsuccessful
It's a messed up situation, but you can't really fault the police's actions. If you've got a whole menagerie of potentially dangerous animals running loose through a populated area you're not going to have the option to tarry while you wait for tranquiliser munitions to turn up.
shoot an already excited and confused tiger with a dart, it's not going to immediately flop down into snoozy-dreamy-sleep-time with a little smile on its face, it's going to go mental and run off. It's not in a controlled environment or the open plain, it's in amongst a bunch of houses, alleyways and general urban sprawl - so if you're lucky you'll find the spot where it's finally keeled over, if you're unlucky you have to go searching for the thing and hope to god it's fully asleep by the time you finally trip over it.
Seriously, the owner opened all the cages and let them out, then killed him. why the HELL did they have to shoot to kill? Why couldnt they just capture them? They started with shooting to kill. and from what i heard, the cops kept doing so, while the zoos that eventually came in started to try and capture them.
Yes, its difficult to capture, as previous posters have said. but why the fuck wouldnt you try first? shoot them with a tranq, follow them. dont shoot to kill until they feel they are going to hurt someone. seriously
ok. the article says they shot one cat with a dart, and it turned violent so they shot it. no one was hurt. and they gave the cat a chance. why couldnt they do that with all the others? dart it first, if it doesnt work, shoot it.
Slipsius: They had no tranquilizer on hand, and only about an hour until nightfall. It was either kill them or risk them getting away and killing people. The polices #1 priority is to protect people, so the decision had to be made.
ok. the article says they shot one cat with a dart, and it turned violent so they shot it. no one was hurt. and they gave the cat a chance. why couldnt they do that with all the others? dart it first, if it doesnt work, shoot it.
Because tranquilizers are INCREDIBLY expensive, and on top of that, they didn't have many on hand. The animals that they did manage to capture are now safe.
Ohio really needs to work on its laws concerning private zoos.
honestly, if they didnt have tranqs on hand, and it was dark, i can KIND OF understand why they did that. But i dunno, i think knowing there are that many animals in a private zoo, they should have been more prepared. all the animals were registered, so why wouldnt cops have tranqs on hand? especially knowing the owners criminal history
honestly, if they didnt have tranqs on hand, and it was dark, i can KIND OF understand why they did that. But i dunno, i think knowing there are that many animals in a private zoo, they should have been more prepared. all the animals were registered, so why wouldnt cops have tranqs on hand? especially knowing the owners criminal history
Didn't know about the owners criminal history, but if that was the case then they should've taken the animals from the owner already.
But yeah, lack of proper laws surrounding owning these animals sounds shitty to begin with.
"Thompson's property is about 2 miles outside Zanesville. The 62-year-old had been released from a federal prison September 30 after pleading guilty earlier this year to possessing illegal firearms, including five fully automatic firearms. A civil case seeking forfeiture of firearms was pending, according to the U.S. attorney's office in Ohio's Southern District.
He also had been convicted of animal cruelty and animals at large in 2005 and was arrested several times for traffic violations"
Yup, just the type of guy they should let own those types of animals :S
Tranquilizers aren't as magical as they appear in the movies, it can take almost an hour for it to affect the animal, and they don't always work. Plus they are expensive and in this scenario we had dozens of very dangerous animals lose. I've even talked to someone who works at a zoom and tigers, if they ever escape, they have a list of animals that are suppose to be shot on site, its not worth it to risk the lives of innocent people.
err....? Why is it getting locked down? I'm a scumbag Steve because I didn't respond for a day?
It's a tragic situation, looks like the police didn't have any better options when faced with the possibility of people getting killed by these animals. Captain Hindsight would say an individual should not be allowed to accumulate such a huge amount of exotic animals, it leads to situations like this one or like this other exotic animal disaster;
honestly, if they didnt have tranqs on hand, and it was dark, i can KIND OF understand why they did that. But i dunno, i think knowing there are that many animals in a private zoo, they should have been more prepared. all the animals were registered, so why wouldnt cops have tranqs on hand? especially knowing the owners criminal history
Tranquilizers are incredibly expensive. More than you can imagine. Also, they don't have various doses of tranquilizers. They have a fixed amount. In a crisis situation, there is no time to sort out the dosage for each animal. You give the same amount of a small animal as you would a big one. A dose that would kill a small animal would have next to no effect on the big.
It was almost night time, and with many of these animals being nocturnal hunters, it could have been very dangerous to wait until morning. It pains me to say this, but it was the right thing to do. A terrible, terrible situation that could have easily been avoided, but they did what they had to given the circumstances.
It would've been a lot better if one of his animals had killed the owner, then they were able to properly release all the animals back into their natural habitats. It really takes the ego of a crazy person to think you can OWN a large deadly animal, much less spend a lot of time around one.
I don't even care to go to zoos for this reason, why pay for a ticket to see animals either sleeping or pacing around wishing they could murder us and escape?
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This whole thing makes me sad. None of those animals deserved to die-
Gah, I don't know.
Just makes me think of Lion king...
So then It makes sense, sounds like he didn't want to give that order.
But if they did get away and were in your back yard and didn't hear of this news, you'd be dinner.
Never the less terrible, why did he have them in the first place is the real question.
Hell, even ideas of zoos seem outdated to me. I can't think of single positive experience or entertainment value looking at caged animals provides.
Also this.
I live in Ohio around where this happen
Most of the animals were captured though
What does seem terrible is why the owner was able to own so many animals, and why he felt letting them run wild and killing himself was something he felt was right to do.
Buy beasts > Set them free in a populated area > LOL From the grave
Since just about all of them were caught his troll was unsuccessful
It's a messed up situation, but you can't really fault the police's actions. If you've got a whole menagerie of potentially dangerous animals running loose through a populated area you're not going to have the option to tarry while you wait for tranquiliser munitions to turn up.
It's a terrible thing, but I can totally understand why the police did it on this occasion.
I think they're better off now than they were in someones private zoo or a public zoo.
while its sad - believe it or not, some species are only still around because of zoos, in wildlife they already died out
Who do you think is mostly to blame for the latter?
And I agree with eld on all sentiments. Out of curiosity, doesn't the US have laws against keeping dangerous exotic animals?
Yes, its difficult to capture, as previous posters have said. but why the fuck wouldnt you try first? shoot them with a tranq, follow them. dont shoot to kill until they feel they are going to hurt someone. seriously
Because tranquilizers are INCREDIBLY expensive, and on top of that, they didn't have many on hand. The animals that they did manage to capture are now safe.
Ohio really needs to work on its laws concerning private zoos.
Didn't know about the owners criminal history, but if that was the case then they should've taken the animals from the owner already.
But yeah, lack of proper laws surrounding owning these animals sounds shitty to begin with.
He also had been convicted of animal cruelty and animals at large in 2005 and was arrested several times for traffic violations"
Yup, just the type of guy they should let own those types of animals :S
a little pussy on the face never hurt anyone....
As soon as it becomes a smother factor or is actually capable of swallowing you whole, the party is over.... =P
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It's a tragic situation, looks like the police didn't have any better options when faced with the possibility of people getting killed by these animals. Captain Hindsight would say an individual should not be allowed to accumulate such a huge amount of exotic animals, it leads to situations like this one or like this other exotic animal disaster;
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Tranquilizers are incredibly expensive. More than you can imagine. Also, they don't have various doses of tranquilizers. They have a fixed amount. In a crisis situation, there is no time to sort out the dosage for each animal. You give the same amount of a small animal as you would a big one. A dose that would kill a small animal would have next to no effect on the big.
It was almost night time, and with many of these animals being nocturnal hunters, it could have been very dangerous to wait until morning. It pains me to say this, but it was the right thing to do. A terrible, terrible situation that could have easily been avoided, but they did what they had to given the circumstances.
I don't even care to go to zoos for this reason, why pay for a ticket to see animals either sleeping or pacing around wishing they could murder us and escape?