I realized, your probably just as good off with a Scanner.
so a scanner creates you actual pathes for strokes to follow? i guess its to early to say anything about the quality but it seems like it actually doesn't create stroke shaped shapes like all autovectorization tools would.
Im thinking it would work like the old network code of opencanvas 1.1. Where is sent vector drawing data with the brush stroke data to another computer to replicate the brushstrokes.
Completely eliminates the need for any tablet-like drawing tool (unless you want coloring).
It's the perfect companion IMO. Sketch on paper anywhere you are, come home, transfer sketches + colour on your computer.
But yeah, if you're purely a sketch person (which I know many people (including myself) are, then it certainly negates a major need for a fully fledged tablet and those cumbersome wires!
Reminds me of the dry erase board scanners. We have a few of them here at work, it has an electric dry erase marker and a scanner that sits on the side of the board. Its basically the same thing but more practical for sketching.
same as bamboo and intuos, only some smart dude discovered some fancy coil system so you dont need as much space for the coils to measure the positions of the pen.
i woner what the range of this pen is, and if it supports realtime mode so putting that box on a screen could make an instand cintiq
That's really cool... but, I don't know why this can't be relayed instantly? Like arrangemonk said, if it was real-time you could just attach this to a nice little screen.
i woner what the range of this pen is, and if it supports realtime mode so putting that box on a screen could make an instand cintiq
Oh snap! Good thinking... also someone needs to make an iPad app that'll work with it (via USB cam connection kit) and allow pressure sensitive drawing on it.
Looks interesting, but I will need to either try it out myself or see an extensive review of the product before I will be converted. I wonder if it has pressure sensitivity
i woner what the range of this pen is, and if it supports realtime mode so putting that box on a screen could make an instand cintiq
Looks like all the sketches are from A5 sketchbooks so I would guess the range is no larger than that. If it worked well on a huge A1/ A0 sheet of paper you can be sure they would be shouting about that in the video.
Looks really interesting - I'd love to test it out or even just to see a live demonstration of it.
Gotta see this because i see too many inconveniences, i'm more traditional and i prefer the traditional inking. I really don't know how it works... and i would like to see the quality of the inking.
Btw, just with pencil, we can have a good line art.
The receptions works inside a A4 sheet of paper and spreads like pie slice, this means the areas directly to the right and left very close to thr sensor of the inkling are not usable.
theres the catch, kind of.
looks like you couldnt do very big sketches, but still I need more video
So do you need to use special wacom ink with this thing? Fuck I'm confused
Nop, it just uses normal rechargeable ink heads so you can see what you draw The little wacom box is a reciever that recieves a infrared light from the pen and the pen also transmits the current pressure level, by that the reciever can take note of the position and pressure of the pen and save it.
I predict: The tech will work alright. Tons of people will rush out and buy one, and then maybe 5% of those buyers will still use theirs regularly after the first two weeks of ownership.
I can see it being useful for people signing contracts/signatures or whatever. But for us artists, it's just a gimmick. Very cool tech, honestly made me go wow, but I don't see myself owning one. Also, for those thinking about using it as a 200$ Cintiq, I wouldn't take a pen anywhere near my monitor screen, let alone write/draw on it. :P
I don't get the point of this thing.
You can just use a scanner, like someone pointed out.
And no, no device in existence will create clear vector data out of typical hand-drawn sketches. You'll get a ton of messy and useless control points unless you very carefully draw out curves, and why would you do that in the first place? How about just get a bamboo.
It won't track little smudges and stuff that happen when you have your hand on the paper.
You can also actively make new layers on the paper that you can edit in a program later. Draw something, add new layer, draw something else... and edit those later on a computer. Also, you can choose to have the data you edit as layered vectors or layered bitmaps.
Because of how the tracking works, the data the receiver collects is incredibly accurate as well. It isn't tracking the actual ink you put down through the pen, merely the position data and pressure data from the pen.
I can see how this would be ridiculously useful for concept artists who can do rough pencil sketches, and then go over with pen... and only the clean pen lines are saved. The active layering system will also save a digital artist a lot of time once they get the data into Photoshop. It really dose have a lot of advantages over just scanning something in.
Let's say you are sketching a quick environment concept. You can break up the data in terms of background, mid-ground, and fore-ground elements for much easier editing later, and much faster editing when it comes down to it.
RexM you are a marketing guy's wet dream is there any kind of new and totally unproven tech you're prepared to doubt
while I'm really impressed with the device, some of your logic there is a little flawed. For instance getting rid of pencil from a pencil/pen scan is very simple. Pen is way darker than pencil
Assuming that the Inkling works as well as it seems to do in the video, there are a few things that stand out here. First is that the pen is pressure sensitive (with 1024 levels), so the lines that end up on your computer should have the same weight as those you make on the paper. Second is layers. Tap a button to start a new layer. On paper. Thats pretty amazing right there.
Finally, you can import your drawing into Adobe Illustrator as a vector file. Frikkin vectors! This means that you can bend and tweak the individual strokes of your ink drawing as much as you like. It also means that you could scale up a tiny doodle and print it onto a billboard with no loss in quality.
Once done, the resulting files can be opened in Photoshop, Illustrator, Autodesk Sketchbook or Sketchbook Designer on the Mac or PC. And even the case design is clever: The pen sits inside the oversized hinge, and the case itself is the charger (three hours of charging gives eight hours of use).
Its not often I go out and buy something I write about here on Gadget Lab, but Im ordering one of these as soon as they start to ship in September. Sure, it costs $200, but its my birthday soon.
while I'm really impressed with the device, some of your logic there is a little flawed. For instance getting rid of pencil from a pencil/pen scan is very simple. Pen is way darker than pencil
It may be simple, but it is one more step that you don't need to do with the Inkling.
The one concern I have is with paper size however...
I sooooo prefer digital over natural media, so this clearly isnt for me, but if it works as stated very very impressive, and lot people should have fun with this.
If you're indoors or have computer nearby of course bamboo or intuos would be more appropriate, but this could be very neat for sketching outdoors, or in the bus e.t.c.
But then, if you are planning to make somewhat finished production painting from those sketches you'll still have to go over original lineart, possibly multiple times, so you might as well scan those sketches or just photograph them.
Seems like useful device, but not quite useful enough.
The biggest advantage I see for game art is for prototyping ideas that you can edit in layers later, or even turn into full-colored concepts based on a cool idea you sketched out.
Sometimes, even with a computer available to me, I still like to sketch out ideas on paper.
Industrial Design guys will likely go nuts over this too, there's still a real favour for pen/pencil sketching and finishing in Photoshop with a lot of them so this is perfect.
I'm interested to know how you start new drawings etc, there doesn't appear to be much in the way of a display on the scanner unit thing, just some lights.
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Good price at 170 euros, will mostly likely buy because of awesome- and hipsterness.
If I can fit unto my sketch books.. Im sold.
so a scanner creates you actual pathes for strokes to follow? i guess its to early to say anything about the quality but it seems like it actually doesn't create stroke shaped shapes like all autovectorization tools would.
Im thinking it would work like the old network code of opencanvas 1.1. Where is sent vector drawing data with the brush stroke data to another computer to replicate the brushstrokes.
Fucking cool.
It's the perfect companion IMO. Sketch on paper anywhere you are, come home, transfer sketches + colour on your computer.
But yeah, if you're purely a sketch person (which I know many people (including myself) are, then it certainly negates a major need for a fully fledged tablet and those cumbersome wires!
awesome!
Reminds me of the dry erase board scanners. We have a few of them here at work, it has an electric dry erase marker and a scanner that sits on the side of the board. Its basically the same thing but more practical for sketching.
Also, its up on the Wacom Website now: http://wacom.com/en/Products/Inkling.aspx
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I wonder how it works.
i woner what the range of this pen is, and if it supports realtime mode so putting that box on a screen could make an instand cintiq
Oh snap! Good thinking... also someone needs to make an iPad app that'll work with it (via USB cam connection kit) and allow pressure sensitive drawing on it.
simply use the remote desktop app and have fun
Thats a bit mindblowing.
Looks like all the sketches are from A5 sketchbooks so I would guess the range is no larger than that. If it worked well on a huge A1/ A0 sheet of paper you can be sure they would be shouting about that in the video.
Looks really interesting - I'd love to test it out or even just to see a live demonstration of it.
"Der Inkling ist in gewissen Ma
http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Inkling/Inkling-Technical-Specifics.aspx
8 Hours use for 3 hour charge?! Awesome.
Btw, just with pencil, we can have a good line art.
Let's see how much it costs...
looks like you couldnt do very big sketches, but still I need more video
Scratch that, it uses a standard refill?
EDIT: Doesn't seem like it's necessary if the pen is already pressure sensitive, but yeah some more details would be nice :P
Nop, it just uses normal rechargeable ink heads so you can see what you draw
thats atleast how I think it works.
It won't track little smudges and stuff that happen when you have your hand on the paper.
You can also actively make new layers on the paper that you can edit in a program later. Draw something, add new layer, draw something else... and edit those later on a computer. Also, you can choose to have the data you edit as layered vectors or layered bitmaps.
Because of how the tracking works, the data the receiver collects is incredibly accurate as well. It isn't tracking the actual ink you put down through the pen, merely the position data and pressure data from the pen.
I can see how this would be ridiculously useful for concept artists who can do rough pencil sketches, and then go over with pen... and only the clean pen lines are saved. The active layering system will also save a digital artist a lot of time once they get the data into Photoshop. It really dose have a lot of advantages over just scanning something in.
Let's say you are sketching a quick environment concept. You can break up the data in terms of background, mid-ground, and fore-ground elements for much easier editing later, and much faster editing when it comes down to it.
Definitely, and the bad part is that people will actually try it. :poly122:
while I'm really impressed with the device, some of your logic there is a little flawed. For instance getting rid of pencil from a pencil/pen scan is very simple. Pen is way darker than pencil
This tech isn't nearly in the same vein as other types of tech.
An article on wired about the announcement.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/08/wacom-inkling-brings-ctrl-z-to-paper-drawings/
It may be simple, but it is one more step that you don't need to do with the Inkling.
The one concern I have is with paper size however...
But then, if you are planning to make somewhat finished production painting from those sketches you'll still have to go over original lineart, possibly multiple times, so you might as well scan those sketches or just photograph them.
Seems like useful device, but not quite useful enough.
Sometimes, even with a computer available to me, I still like to sketch out ideas on paper.
I'm interested to know how you start new drawings etc, there doesn't appear to be much in the way of a display on the scanner unit thing, just some lights.
Definitely want to see more before I can get excited, but it looks really fun.
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