Advice and help on head sculpt

fuzzio

I created the base mesh in Maya and have now imported into zbrush for detailing, i have gone for the stylized look on this character. I need some advice on how i can give this head model more of a wow and pop factor. Would it be better if i continue to detail all around the model. It just feels like its crying for me to do something wowy to it. Here is the image, please let me know on how i can improve what i already have thank you

fuzzio

Anyone?

LRoy

The mouth is really throwing it off for me. Maybe if she had some really pouty lips?

feanix

Yeah, the smile makes it hard to analyse the facial structuer. Also, that material is really dark. Try reposting with a lighter material, like Metal or Pearl.

butt_sahib

Yeah. A lighter material plis

fuzzio

Here is the fron and side in different material

butt_sahib

I personally think shes got the "wow" factor you keep referring to
Looks pretty solid for a stylised character to me......

fuzzio

Thanks Sahib, i will tweak the lips a bit more. Maybe go for a Jessica Rabbit style lips. Quick question though, sahib do you know any good settings for rendering your models within z brush. The first image i posted on this thread was a render but it came out quite dark, what would be the best settings and best material to use?

daphz

the nose and cheeks are looking solid, but I think the mouth area needs a but more work. try pushing in the corners of the lips where the upper and lower lip meet, or closing the mouth a bit so you can see more of the teeth.

fuzzio

Thanks Daphz for the reference images, will try out what you said about the lips

CandyStripes05

deff following this one !

fuzzio

Spent today tweaking around the mouth area, the creases in the smile seem a bit of nut at the same time goes with the stylized look

polozad

You've inverted folds, don't you see?

JustinPunio

The lips have improved, but the two creases next to the mouth look too sharp. Soften them a little ^.^'

benji

nice!

lips are looking better but could still use more definition of structure and shape - try to distinguish them from the surrounding skin a little more

as for the wow factor you seek - I like this design, I think texturing could really bring it alive. Maybe you could give the hair a more engaging style - unless that neat plain style is part of the aesthetic you're going for?

fuzzio

Latest update, I'm kind of done with messing around with the smile. I also created the textures for the character, still need to uv map the rest of the models such as hat and hair. Please tell me what you think

fuzzio

Mark Dygert

Where are the teeth? It's like she's a toothless old man giving you a big gummy smile... super creepy.

fuzzio

Lol she has teeth, still have to uv and texture the rest of the model

MM

corners of the lips on your model have round shape. for a smile the corners should have a sharp cut between the upper and lower lips.

yellow indicated where you need a sharp crease and blue indicated where you need to bulge out the flesh due to muscle tension.

to me it looks like your model has bad topology that doesnt allow you to have that sharp corner between the lips. can you show wireframe ?

also study someone in real life in front of you, that is the best reference you can get.

also, try working on the whole face and remove all these accessories, the glasses, cap and hair. btw, the glasses look completely flat which is wrong. they should be curved and haev a more spherical end to it.

fuzzio

Thanks for the advice MM, here is the wire frame let me know how it is

fuzzio

Almost complete now but only one object in the way. I am rendering the object in zbrush with all textures imported. I render as BPR and for some reason the image comes out quite dark with heavy shadow around the face. I have created two lights and played around witht the settings but for some reason i cant get it the way i want. Would anybody on here know how to achieve the best render image quality, crisp and clear without any unwanted shadows. Below i will post the render whihc i am not happy with

TortillaChips

I think one of the main reasons why the mouth may look weird is because when the lower lip ends where the upper lip continues. Also you haven't put the in the yellow lined areas MM showed you, that visible crease always flows from just above the nostrils whereas yours reaches the bottom of the nostrils.

fuzzio

Thanks for the comment Tortilla, yeh i just fixed up the areas now which MM indicated with the yellow lines in image below