War Buggy WIP

riddlaz

Hello all! I'm currently working on a vehicle inspired from the style of Rage and Motorstorm. The textures are base, and most of the poly's are concentrated on the inner parts, so I'm planning to optimize those areas. Any feed back on how it can be improved are appreciated.

Thanks.

ajv3d

Super awesome, I really like the design. How are you doing your renders?

riddlaz

Thanks! The renders are done in 3d Max, I'm currently setting up the materials and preparing the model for UDK. I'll post screenshots as soon as I have them.

dansher

would you be able to post some close ups of the suspension? i was trying to make a dune buggy type vehicle not long ago had alot of trouble trying to work it out.

thanks it looks awesome btw lol

trancerobot

One thing that really stands out are the three horns on the top of the vehicle. They could be smoother than that and probably aren't saving you much in the poly count department anyway. I'm not a fan of the tire treads either - they look too simple.

Otherwise it's a cool concept!

riddlaz

dansher wrote: »

would you be able to post some close ups of the suspension? i was trying to make a dune buggy type vehicle not long ago had alot of trouble trying to work it out.

thanks it looks awesome btw lol

Thanks! I'll post up more some renders soon.

riddlaz

trancerobot wrote: »

One thing that really stands out are the three horns on the top of the vehicle. They could be smoother than that and probably aren't saving you much in the poly count department anyway. I'm not a fan of the tire treads either - they look too simple.

Otherwise it's a cool concept!

Thanks for the feedback, What I'll end up doing is optimizing the parts you barely see and adding more details to the ones you do, such as the three lights on top, the rope, and tires.

Snader

What the frick, 120.000 for the LOWPOLY? I think you've got some issues.

riddlaz

Snader wrote: »

What the frick, 120.000 for the LOWPOLY? I think you've got some issues.

Yes thats why on the first post I said "most of the poly's are concentrated on the inner parts, so I'm planning to optimize those areas"

camza

Snader, riddlaz never once mentioned that it was a lowpoly. And he's said multiple times that he still needs to optimise it.

Nice model btw. Can we see some shots from different angles?

riddlaz

camza wrote: »

Snader, riddlaz never once mentioned that it was a lowpoly. And he's said multiple times that he still needs to optimise it.

Nice model btw. Can we see some shots from different angles?

Thanks

Here are a few more angles:

riddlaz

Here are new progress screenshots from UDK. The tri-count for the vehicle is 50k.

Raider

it looks good but 50k for that is a tonne dude you might want to optimize that a bit more

riddlaz

Raider wrote: »

it looks good but 50k for that is a tonne dude you might want to optimize that a bit more

What do you think would be a reasonable amount of triangles for a vehicle like this in a modern game?

Raider

i honestly wouldn't know but if the wires for the final shots are anything like the first shots then i say you could knock out a lot

riddlaz

UPDATE: VIDEO IN THIS COMMENT DELETED.

riddlaz

Raider wrote: »

i honestly wouldn't know but if the wires for the final shots are anything like the first shots then i say you could knock out a lot

Thanks for the suggestion, the wires have changed a lot, I'll post some new ones when I get a chance. I'll see which other areas can be optimized in order for it to run smoother on the engine. I'm planning on finalizing the textures first.

InMOP

Looks brilliant mate but one thing that caught my eyes was the chrome, the buggy is all rusty and has dirt everywhere but the chrome is clean and shiny like its new. Shouldn't the chrome get the same treatment as the rest of the buggy.

c0ldhands

Dont spend time on the presentation of the mesh when cleary the vehicle lacks the basic understanding of texturing and mesh optimization. First of all you have to take care of the geometry, right now its looking like something in between game-art and movie CG.Some peices have alot of detail like the wheels, some lack alot of geo like the rope.

50k is much even for todays standards. You should aim for 15-20k, thats how much for example MotorStorm on Ps3 goes for. If you can do it in less, even better.

riddlaz

InMOP wrote: »

Looks brilliant mate but one thing that caught my eyes was the chrome, the buggy is all rusty and has dirt everywhere but the chrome is clean and shiny like its new. Shouldn't the chrome get the same treatment as the rest of the buggy.

Thanks for pointing that out, I already took care of that.

riddlaz

c0ldhands wrote: »

Dont spend time on the presentation of the mesh when cleary the vehicle lacks the basic understanding of texturing and mesh optimization. First of all you have to take care of the geometry, right now its looking like something in between game-art and movie CG.Some peices have alot of detail like the wheels, some lack alot of geo like the rope.

50k is much even for todays standards. You should aim for 15-20k, thats how much for example MotorStorm on Ps3 goes for. If you can do it in less, even better.

I added more geometry to the ropes and the lights but apparently the rope is still inconsistent with the rest, It's an easy fix, thanks for pointing that out. I still plan to do more optimization to the geometry. As far as the textures go, they still WIP. The model only has baked down imagery and some tiled textures. I still need to do specific details/specular/emissives.

riddlaz

I'm ready to move on to another project now.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76_C4ITJ5nI[/ame]

Joshflighter

What bothered me about the video was that you never really showed the buggy in its eternity.

roosterMAP

I really love the blue sky. really compliments the model. But there is WAY too much noise. In fact, I would get rid of it completely. You can always touch up your render in photoshop. Some DoF would really help.

riddlaz

Joshflighter wrote: »

What bothered me about the video was that you never really showed the buggy in its eternity.

Thanks for the feedback, I'll see what I can do to make it better before I added to my demo reel.

riddlaz

roosterMAP wrote: »

I really love the blue sky. really compliments the model. But there is WAY too much noise. In fact, I would get rid of it completely. You can always touch up your render in photoshop. Some DoF would really help.

Thanks for the tip, you're right. I must have overlooked that, I'll tone that down a notch.

JohnnySix

Only one request, and that would be to do a simple rig and show it driving, watching the build up with the panning , followed by the close-up on the rocket/jet turbine, I was eager to see it tearing across a post-apocalyptic landscape.

riddlaz

JohnnySix wrote: »

Only one request, and that would be to do a simple rig and show it driving, watching the build up with the panning , followed by the close-up on the rocket/jet turbine, I was eager to see it tearing across a post-apocalyptic landscape.

To be honest, I've never done a vehicle rig before. DO you know of a good resource where I can get more information on that?

Stertman

nice one.. but you need to do something about the chains in the front.. they seem to be flying atm..

JohnnySix

riddlaz wrote: »

To be honest, I've never done a vehicle rig before. DO you know of a good resource where I can get more information on that?

I'd suggest maybe looking at the rigging for the buggy in UT3, I've not explored much since UT2004, so couldn't advise, even if you just animated in max manually, just to give the impression of a rig, it'd be cool, it's video after all, so just cheat.

CGvanHoudt

Maya 2012 has some cool new features for simulating a car driving over a terrain,

http://usa.autodesk.com/maya/features/

riddlaz

I know this is an older post but wanted to come back to post the final screens for it:

Thanks all for the support and crits.







More screens and videos available here.

Cooljay

Great texture work on this. I like the design overall.

Illusive

great model dude! no crits from me

seth.

I would get rid of the spotlight beams in the middle render though, they obscure the model a bit and make no sense in what appears to be daylight...other than that beautiful work riddlaz, the model is ace. Reminds me of the main vehicle from a movie when I was a kid: Space Hunter, adventures in the forbidden zone....ahhh memories

riddlaz

seth. wrote: »

I would get rid of the spotlight beams in the middle render though, they obscure the model a bit and make no sense in what appears to be daylight...other than that beautiful work riddlaz, the model is ace. Reminds me of the main vehicle from a movie when I was a kid: Space Hunter, adventures in the forbidden zone....ahhh memories

Sharp eye Seth, thanks for pointing that out, the day is very clear so toning those down would be a good option. Haven't seen that movie before, but I was searching for it on Google. I really like the war vehicles that came out in the results, I can see how they can relate to each other.

Thanks.

riddlaz

Thanks Cooljay and Illusive Glad you guys like it.

Scizz

that thing is effing sweet.

riddlaz

Scizz wrote: »

that thing is effing sweet.

Thanks Scizz!

Here is a video of the vehicle in the rain, the environment effects are going to be part of a tutorial in the near future.


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk2iWdjQX00[/ame]

jeremiah_bigley

Some nice work man!
Any inspiration from http://marekdenko.net/?page_id=53 ?

The effects and camera angles seem like too much. They are overshadowing the model itself. If you want to pull that off just do a 3/4 shot with a slow push in. And maybe rotate around just slightly.

SnakeDoctor

Could you post your diffuse map and possibly a uv overlay of that map.