[STAGE] Mortal Kombat, Bell Tower, Gannon

Gannon

Hey guys, After tossing around some ideas and weighing the limitations I decided to go with the Mortal Kombat Bell tower Stage.



I plan on making it seem like it was lost in a sand storm with Sand pouring in from above and piling up inside.

Here's some of me Ref. Any and all concepts/images are property of their respective creators.





The last ones my favorite and is where I'll be pulling most of the lighting and layout from.

Dan!

kick ass idea-good luck!

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Jeff Parrott

Sweet idea man. Get this sucka going!

CHON

Here so many nice references ! Good luck!

Gannon

Working on the wood beams that will support the floor.

Dan!

nice wood!!:D

BeatKitano

Gannon

Some Tiles I just baked out and are modular so I can start getting this Scene Assembled.

ParoXum

You did no block-out of your level?

Sculpts are good, especially the wood beam, it's got a good depth.

Gannon

TeriyakiStyle I honestly don't remember who exactly did them, but I know I found the concepts on CGhub and through the googles.

ParoXum Thanks, .

Nah, I'm honestly winging it and building assets as I go along HAH. I keep throwing new ideas into the mix so the ideas still evolving.

Here's the latest.

uk_resistant

What you building this in? looks nice

Gannon

@uk_resistant - Thanks, it's just the latest UDK build, I Just got some of the walls in place with a flat material and I'm waiting for it to finish baking. I'll post it in a bit then I'm off to bed.

UPDATE - Here's the latest, I'll finalize the camera angles and FOV once I get more assets in the scene.

I'm doing some material research instead of modeling most of my assets so it's slowing the process down a little but I'll be done by the deadline for sure.

Ben Apuna

I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

Going by your reference and concepts it might end up being quite a dramatic scene.

Good luck!

Jeff Parrott

Looks good. I feel like the floor tiles would fall through the supports. They are too small. That's just my opinion. Otherwise it's looking nice so far.

uk_resistant

Ah cool.

Im pretty new to the UDK really and I understand that the way you'd build a scene would be with brushes and static meshes - is that how you have done that?
I wanted to do my scene in UDK but I wasnt sure if it was worth the maya-> UDK-> working out how to do things cycle would be worth it.

Gannon

@Ben Apuna - Thanks; I'm just taking it one step at a time and treating this as a big learning experience.

@Jeffro - Thanks, yeah I agree. I need to stick some more planks of wood under them help push the layers of construction ie Tiles > Planks > Beams.

I plan on using some large rope strings hanging over and around some of the wood to give it some more depth as well.

@uk_resistant - Yeah for the most part. There isn't any Brushes in my scene just yet other then ones set for collision on the floor. Most of the objects are static meshes created through Maya and imported in as .FBX files that I assemble kinda like a big lego set.

The cycles pretty similar to other engines, at least with the ones I'm familiar with using.


More models and hopefully the rest of the scene block out this weekend.

Mark Dygert

Winging it seems to be working great, I what you have so far. Nice work!

Wahlgren

FUck me sideways. This will be awesome. Should add some more meshes under the floor to add an extra element. Will work wonders. Maybe some dimmed down / darker brickwork?

I'm feeling the lighting style.

Gannon

@ Mark Dygert - Thanks

@ Wahlgren - Yeah, I've already thrown in some more planks to beef up the layers of construction, I'm also going to use some vertex painting to get some color variation in my tiles. Everything's super basic at the moment while I lay out the scene.


I may potentially do a second level of the bell tower pending time permits. I need to get the structural assets finished up first though.

So...

I need some outside opinions. I really like both, but I'm torn so I'll leave it up to you guys.





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Jeff Parrott

A

DLoud

I'm voting A

SnakeDoctor

A

oobersli

looks cool, but doesn't really make sense to have random tiles placed on random wooden beams without anything holding them together. Not saying this has to be structurally realistic, just the first thing that pops at me is, who would build stone tiles on top of poorly placed wooden beams?? right now your beam placement reminds me of the windows screensaver that has pipes going everywhere.

maybe some sorta structure layer between the wooden beams and stone tiles? some wooden bell tower ref might give some good ref.

http://www.thebrooklynnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/krk-0512-1024x768.jpg

Mark Dygert

Yea the wood and tiles could work with a little more logic but I wouldn't go crazy trying to make it perfectly plausible. A few brackets could help the realism and add some interesting details? Also there could be some kind of subflooring placed between the beams and the tiles, again maybe another chance to add some detail while providing plausibility? I would only really do it to enhance the scene not to explain how it all holds together, after all parts of it have fallen away...

Gannon

Support Column A it is then.

@Mark & Oobersli - SHUT UP IT LOOKS AWESOME..... No I totally know what you mean lol, I just kinda started throwing pieces down there to give an idea of how things would look after being arranged and under some test lighting.

That links pretty cool I really appreciate it. I've never seen wood supports like that inside a brick structure before, it's really cool and is giving me some more ideas. I'll start playing around with some underlying support layouts.

Gannon

Block ins block ins block ins.

Testing some of the lighting ideas and playing w/ exponential height fog instead of the standard height fog to get some different colors out of said lighting.

Jeff Parrott

Dunno about the lighting that is in place. The construction of things looks good though. I'd still like to see a support layer between the wood beams and the tiles. The pillars look good though for what you have now. Keep winging it!

Gannon

Yeah, lightings pretty fuggly I agree.

Working on the Vertex painted walls and I'm going to play w/ the lighting more.

I'll post a full scene shot later this week, for now you get the 3 materials being blended. I'll probably throw a world position cloud, detail normals and if I can get a working up vector to mask off sand between cracks then I'll do that also. I'm only using 2 Channels at the moment so I've got room for it.

d1ver

Hey man, nice progress!

I see you blending 2 normal maps to show some decaying, but there's no change in diffuse which could be a waste. Maybe you could use this vertex channel to add some subtle grime and wear too, thus introducing more color variation? because now it's looking pretty monotonous.

Anyway nice to see tings shaping up. Keep it coming, man:)

Gannon

Thanks, you're right. I switched to just the normal maps for now. I'm playing around with progressively more gritty textures to get some more color out of it.

I updated the normal map to get rid of some of the perfect straight lines in the and a weird tile also. Pics with the floor and wall re-texture to come later.

Sharvo

Hey good stuff comihg out of here, Love the idea, but have you thought about flipping the foreground to the background, or moving the camera forward it just looks like it is far away from all the action?

Like the lighting as well, looks yummy!

Gannon

Thanks, Sharvo. I'm working on something like that, trying figuring out some angles and materials so the pillars can become transparent when you get the camera close to them.


But for now, you can look at my floor. Once I get the sand in the scene I'll go back and make a height map to lerp in some sand between the cracks.

Jeff Parrott

The value of the wood and the tiles is really similar. I would work on making those not so close. Otherwise it's hard to see much cause the camera is pulled so close for these shots. Looks like progress is being made.

Gannon

Working on making those wall textures really pop.

Thoughts?

iansmithartist

Its looking good, though maybe some colour variation between the brick surface and the worn exposed areas beneath might break it up some more and help it pop.

Jeff Parrott

Color variation definitely needed. Also the edge of the brick (at the bottom) needs some chipping.

Gannon

Here's roughly where I'm at. I still need to do a lot of work, but its getting done. I'll finish the arches I just remodeled thanks to some tips from Makkons Curved Arch Tutorial.

I really need to get started on those bells. Maybe I'll do that today.

Things to do (mostly for me)

• Finish Arch High Poly and Texture
• Model and Texture Bells
• Finish Pillar Textures
• Get Normal Maps for Sand
• Finish Broken Wall bricks to get rid of hard edges.
• Height Map for ground tiles to get sand vertex painted
• Fix Sky Dome
• Foliage
• Trouble Shoot Decals not showing up on walls
• Play with lighting and Post Process Chain

AlanSMitchell

in your Reff you had sand falling. I think a particle effect where that happened would be sweet maybe build up on the bells. also just a thought but I have been using this method of baking lightmaps. I only sticking the lights at the top creating a "crappy light rig" I call it my dust rig. and I bake the lightmap and use it in a lerp expression.

you can probably use this everywere such as the brick. just Stick it in a spot earlier in the expression before you hit the vertex paint.

AlanSMitchell

http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83425
4 your sand

Gannon

Haha, thanks for the link but I'm waaaaaaay ahead of ya >_>. The pics a little too low for me to break it down but I've got an Upvector vertex blend working thanks to a friend of mine helping me figure it out.

I'm completely redoing my bricks, they didn't fit well in the scene so I'm redoing them. Pics soon.

Jeff Parrott

Looks good man. Can't wait to see the new brick material.

The two different arches next to each other seems off. I imagine one would be on the ground and the other would be above it.

Also more cool colors and then some accent colors. Maybe banners or flags hanging.

AlanSMitchell

an up vector would do the same thing. I guess I should have only zoomed into right after the add section. but basically texture A in the lerp is the diffuse and Texture B is the dust then you use the lightmap as the blend and clamp itfor a nice hard line. but like I said the up vector would do the same thing I just remember the expression for the up vector and it was a bit much to comprehed. But anyways Cool Stuff
btw updated the above image

Gannon

Here's the bell I started a little bit ago.

Gannon

Did some test bakes on the bells main body, I'll sort out the UV's for the rest and get it textured up after I run to the store.

Karl Stjernberg

This is looking really, really good! Love the intruding sand and the sun! We need more sunny levels!

engelmanna

This is looking sweet! I love your wall textures. Are there any tutorials that demonstrate how to setup a material like that? I understand the vertex blending part, but I'm still a little confused on how you are blending in the damage.

AjdinBarucija

"OUTSTANDING"

Gannon

Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words.

Blot1234: the key is layers and making sure your bricks all line up as if they were laid exactly in the same spot. Hope this helps.

First tut I've thrown together so sorry if it's a little vague.

engelmanna

Nice tutorial! That isn't super tough, I don't know why I didn't get it before, thanks!

r4ptur3

awesome rocks / tutorial! you pushed that material quite nicely great work so far, keep going!