[UDK] Distillery
Hello there! My name is Long, but people call me Long.
I have been working on my first UDK map and here is the result. Well it's not finished yet.
The stuff i have left are:
-Dirtmap on the walls and the ground.
-All the props have the same error, as you can see its like the corners are having some sort of shading error. Any ideas on what could cause this?
-Light errors on some props, this happend when i removed all my spotlights and exchanged them to emissive lighting from the lamps.
-The flags get the error "SkeletalMeshActor casts shadow but has no PhysicsAsset assigned. The shadow will be low res and inefficient."
I tried adding a physicasset but i'm getting stumped here. Gonna watch the physic tutorial at udk's website to see if that makes me any smarter.
-Windows, they don't look right. Going to remove normals and fix the reflection.
-The sky, more stars! Make it look even more nightly.
-Going to add a particle fire inside my diesel barrel.
-The single door, needs rebuilding. Normals/Spec is way off.
-The decals, they are unlit so thats why they stick out like a sore thumb.
I have tried different shaders but i can't get them to look pretty. Any ideas?
-Postprocessing... it feels unfinished but it is starting to feel like im getting to a point were i just need to stop fiddling.
I was thinking of adding more props like a fire escape, a bench and cables between the buildings.
But iunno...it feels like it will become clutterd if i add more props. especially on the ground. Critiqu
I have been working on my first UDK map and here is the result. Well it's not finished yet.
The stuff i have left are:
-Dirtmap on the walls and the ground.
-All the props have the same error, as you can see its like the corners are having some sort of shading error. Any ideas on what could cause this?
-Light errors on some props, this happend when i removed all my spotlights and exchanged them to emissive lighting from the lamps.
-The flags get the error "SkeletalMeshActor casts shadow but has no PhysicsAsset assigned. The shadow will be low res and inefficient."
I tried adding a physicasset but i'm getting stumped here. Gonna watch the physic tutorial at udk's website to see if that makes me any smarter.
-Windows, they don't look right. Going to remove normals and fix the reflection.
-The sky, more stars! Make it look even more nightly.
-Going to add a particle fire inside my diesel barrel.
-The single door, needs rebuilding. Normals/Spec is way off.
-The decals, they are unlit so thats why they stick out like a sore thumb.
I have tried different shaders but i can't get them to look pretty. Any ideas?
-Postprocessing... it feels unfinished but it is starting to feel like im getting to a point were i just need to stop fiddling.
I was thinking of adding more props like a fire escape, a bench and cables between the buildings.
But iunno...it feels like it will become clutterd if i add more props. especially on the ground. Critiqu
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Small crit. I think you need to take a second look at the proportions of your lights. The street light feels too short and fat.
Other than that, I think you need to work on the lighting a bit. The lighting right now is rather flat, with little to no shadows. Try and really nail the time of day your looking to portray - which by the looks of it is dusk, or late night.
Hope that helps a bit, very cool scene.
@glottis8: mhmm, i have added mossy mask now. But im not quite happy about it. Gonna take a crack at it tomorrow.
@brandoom: Thanks ye the brewery in toronto was my main source of inspiration. Also that's why there are canadian flags in the scene
Ye you are right, it looks alot better now with thinner and longer streetlights. Thanks for noticing.
Gonna do an iteration of the window tomorrow.
So here it is update 0.1
Goodnight and thanks for reading
If you want you, can break repetitive aspect of bricks with vertexpaint and texture blend like [ame="
There is a great tutorial here.
i hope it can help ;p
@morphoz: Ye i have been looking at his website alot, thanks for linking. ; )
So update, my personal deadline is today so i have only been doing finetuning. I also been trying to fix my errors, the ones i have left are
- Still lighterrors, it's like some props use the same lightmap but they are on diffrent locations.
-Decals, idunno if there is a fix for this. But too make them so that they are included in the lights. Atm they are unlit but i have tried phong and transcluscent. I'm gonna google around and see if anyone else have the same problem...
EDIT: your lights need fall off and to light the scene appropriately.
Maybe the white stone texture you have on the pillars is too large or blurry?
It was already noticed, that it is a night scene, but it still looks way too bright to be.
Some pipes in the background could emit some smoke, many factories work in the night shift. I guess, that there's no need to illuminate lifeless factory, so adding some life could be sweet: some lightning in few windows, may be add some rooms inside buildings (behind the opened windows, not too detailed, of course), you know... Roll door (damn, how is it called in English? :-D ), that with seven on it, could be half-opened to show some interior, for example. Add life.
That void on the right in 2nd screen reminds good old days spent with games in mid 90th. Do you remember that clipping?..
There's a felling, that you try to add some disorder in your scene, but it still looks too clean and comfortable.
Some more:
curbstones could have some more gaps, and some variations;
corners of the buildings could use some bevels;
surfaces are too plain, I think;
some of the lamps could use more yellow and weak light, with simulation of they are running out of resource (well, smaller corona, red filament and stuff).
agree with all of hypnotic's, cept the surfaces' plainness is a result of not having bumps, i reckon.
also - add the 'light around the corner', and consider illuminating some windows too
I would take the moon right out, you dont need it. You have lights on the streets, use those to guide the eye, the moon is distracting right now.
I really like the shots that have the pinkish purple hue in the sky. I would do that all around for your shots. It gives a nice feel and better colour composition.
I like the second shot in your first post. It has more of that purple in the sky and has a warmer feel overall.
Also, get some newspapers and garbage on the street, make it feel more lived in.
@serp: Added grime/dirt to it, but because the ground has a displacement map it is gonna look like it pops out. I will fiddle around with it but atm i don't have an clue to fix it more then i have.
@Hypnoticat: I have toned down the brightness, but as you can see i lose more and more of my shadows. I'm gonna try making them darker without adding to the brightness. As for the skydome, i have removed the moon now, but at this stage i feel like it's more of a sunrise/sundown due to the brightness around the edges. Gonna tone them down when i wake up tomorrow.
I tried adding a particle emitter, but it seems to abruptly stop when it has the skydome as a background. I'm in the midst of figuring this one out (SPDG thing?)
About the rollup doors, ye i can add another door that is a bit open. It will be in the next update.
The clipping..ah yes..well humm..cough...i got stumped when i built it the first time, but now a wall! ;D (Also i'm gonna add pipes on the green wall, like i have on the left)
The plainess, hmmh..i can redo the brick normal map. I saw a great tut at philipk's site that had some nice variations.
The lamps, ye i can make some of them seem like they are running out of juice. But i don't know how the emissive will be effected, because atm i'm using the emissive as lighting, shure i can remove that from those that are broken..hmm...i'll fiddle around and see what i come up with.
@BigErn: I can make a piece that has broken/removed bricks, but i don't know how good it will look because it will not have it's own normalmap/occ. I can do a test and see...
The windows are just a test for the emissive interior.
And the glowing barrel, i brought it back because..well if im gonna do a smoke particle i can do a fire particle to!
Sidenote: The brightness, it's wierd..im looking at the picture in the preview tool vs chrome. And chrome is making it alot brighter : S
Prolly just a setting on my end, but still...annoying.
But here i am babbeling, when you wanna se pics!
Thanks for all the input!
Are those barrels on fire? This trouble should be caused by the rage of distillery workers gone on strike...
Finally some lamps are gone, and that's pretty nice, because they didn't make sense. Many things still have too many clones, for instance, manholes driving mad. Dunno if there are to many of them, but they could be at least more detailed or stick up less. Hm...
Why not to make sunrise\sunset, by the way? Here's lame daub:
I have been trying my hand on diffrent solutions in the material editor and playing around with materialinstaces.
Doing alot of work with lights to get the mood straight, in this update i'm not there mostly due the red light. It is extremly strong and bleeds all over the scene.
Going to add more dirt and garbage.
@hypnoticat: UDK is alot o fun, much to learn but very friendly engine. The barrels are on fire, when i get a fire particle in there. They are mostly there to give warmth for the homeless.
Ye the manholes, i have had my thoughts about them too...gonna see what a decal will do instead.
Well my original idea was a nightshot and i aint giving up on it, mostly because i want to learn how a nightscene could be setup in UDK and how hard it will be to do it.
I think the fall off of your lights could be more subtle. But i like where it's going. Add some light smoke from the barrels, if they are on fire. Really good work man, lots of improvement!
@glottis8: The orange was just because i quickly added it but i did not tweak it in that picture, mostly due to the fact it was four in the mornin.
The posters i have been struggeling with for awhile, so now i just did a dirty fix in photoshop.
@StealthSilver: Oh shi! Thanks, my canadian history is...non existant, maybe should have thought of that before i created a scene based on prohobition era canadian distillery. So now it's changed to The Red Ensign, which was used between 1927-1957..if wikipedia is correct.
So today update:
The fire, not mine. It is udk's. I'm having a bit of a rumble with the particle editor. But i will be victourious in the end!
Thinking of beveling around the windows as well, tried various iterations and at the moment they all kinda suck when i do that.
Getting a shadow from the flags, i think the solution is that i dont have a physicasset assigned to the skeletalmesh. Must fix this.
The sidewalks also seem kinda skinny to me. Like right now only 1 person could really walk down it, but bearly that. Although maybe back in older times they weren't so wide. It also depends on the sidewalk I guess, being infront of a skyscraper in NY, they are like what, 20ft wide? But that's because of so many people using it.
Keep it up!