Hi this is more or less how I draw , I wanted to know what do you think of this , and any sugestions on what to improve , this is pencil and paper only , I wanted now to try to pass to tabled drawing but what I tired just sucked and I can't find a decent tutorial on drawing things like what I draw here any help and comment appreciated Thanks a lot ....
Overall i like the feeling. Though some areas to me look flat. Like his knees and those thigh pads. Then the shield looks flat behind him. I think you have the right start. Just keep working on giving your art more volume.
Overall is pretty good, the only problem I see is the angle of the shield.
The shield looks flat and the angle of the hand isn't the same as the shield. I think it's about the perspective. For drawing tutorials, I highly recommend to check out Feng Zhu's Youtube channel, I've learn a lot from him! http://www.youtube.com/user/FZDSCHOOL
It's quite flat, the shading doesn't lend much of a sense of shape to things. Really I mean, you need to do the same thing every other artist does, draw from life, and apply the knowledge learned to everything else you draw. You should find an illustration-focused forum and post your work up for critique there constantly, best way to get good fast.
I think the pose is awkward and the sword doesn't continue correctly.
That said your style is fantastic, what resonates with me is that it really looks like a medieval woodcut. The high level of detail in the background flattens the image, but this also evokes a comparison to wood cuts.
What I might try is to experiment with hatching instead of shading with the side of your pencil, this would really make your drawings pop.
in all honesty? big anatomy problems and the lighting is really flat. It seems you use your dark tones mainly to fill in the crevices and you dont really define a light source.
Composition-wise, you have a nice thing going, sort of a neo-classical vibe.
You just need to work on your forms and lighting more. I would also be mindful of the pressure your applying to your marks. In the first picture the mountains have the same line density and darkness as the fella in the foreground which is mucking up the depth of the scene.
I would say you're definitely on the right track, just need to tighten some stuff up.
I have a quick question - Are you using a single pencil to do all of this, or do you have a set of varying grades?
Thankyou , fopr the technique I used I guess is very weird , I drawed all with a black pen then added some shading with a darker soft black pencill ....
Your drawings are pretty good. I remember I used to try drawing whole scenes like these and it wore me out!
Aside from a few technical issues, I think you might benefit from taking a step back and analyzing your drawing process. It's easy to get lost in your drawings because it's all so literal. Detail is great, but sometimes in order to create a more pleasing image you have to be willing to omit unimportant details so that the important ones can shine. Someone should be able to glance at your image and immediately understand what's going on and where they should be looking.
I think painting might help you develop this sense. The power of simply suggesting details and not getting lost trying to draw every blade of grass can do wonders for your overall approach to art. You can see what I mean by examining great paintings up close. You might be surprised how little explicit detail there really is, but it all works at a distance, and is better for it.
If you want to stick with pencils maybe you can try exploring more simplistic line drawings. There's a reason why stylized art works so effectively, and trying to work that thinking process into your drawings can help you decide what's really important for the image.
I noticed that the male character has some improper foreshortening in his right arm and both characters tend to just blend into the scene rather than stand out. Try outlining your characters with thicker lines to emphasis their presence in the scene.
you've got that classic thing going on of shading light anything which sticks out towards the viewer, instead of anything which is facing towards the light source- the tree bark is a good example of this- makes stuff look flat
Hehe thanks for all comments guys , those drawins are from 2000 and I didn't pick up a pencile ever befoure doing those neither I did it after , now I was feeling to draw something again but eventually with the tablet .... so I was considering reanalizing my old draws styles and improve what I missed or I am not able to do ... anyway here is one another of the drawins I did .... Inspired by the Gladiator movie lol ....
I really like the compositions in your pieces, but like its been said, your proportions and shading from a light source could use some work. Keep it up.
as far as trying to improve your drawing skill it seems like it'd be a good idea to not focus so much on shading and detailing your drawings right now. Quantity of drawings will be more important. draw fast and draw a lot. practice gestures and try different styles. your very base drawing needs to be solid before you move into shading and detailing. you can keep rendering them out but you won't be improving on fundamental skills like design, posing and and shape. looks like you're moving in a nice direction though!
Haha I'm stoked to see some new stuff! ~10 years is a long time!
A part of me hope that you will deliver something equal to a shaky stick figure..
But you seem to have a lot of skills and perceptions that is hard to shake off, especially since you frequent a art forum :thumbup:. Want moooaar!
It looks like you skipped a few basic steps and jumped straight to trying to learn how to render, without understanding the underlying theory. Pick up a couple of basic books, and start from the beginning. Loomis, hogarth and bridgman are all great authors. And cheap on amazon! Form, anatomy, perspective and so on and so forth. Foundation is key, and contrary to what the mythbusters will have you believe, you can't polish a turd. (If you're unfamiliar with the saying, it means no amount of house paint will fix the fact that the walls of the house are crooked.)
//edit: Amazon, not ebay. (Although you could probably find them on ebay as well..)
Hi this is more or less how I draw , I wanted to know what do you think of this , and any sugestions on what to improve , this is pencil and paper only , I wanted now to try to pass to tabled drawing but what I tired just sucked and I can't find a decent tutorial on drawing things like what I draw here any help and comment appreciated Thanks a lot ....
I didnt see the tablet part; the transfer from paper to digital is a hard and frustrating one. like anything else it takes time. spend several days drawing on the tablet. it took me days in hours to get used to it but now I freaking love digital, so much more flexable, faster, cleaner the onely downside is you have no "tangible" work, but then again you can print it out so...
i dont think there are tutorials on paper to tablet...work work work.
Yeh enough with the old drawings , when I get a bit of free time I will start to draw something new making more attention to pose , proportions and anatomy , thanks for all the great sugestions and response .... as for rendering out I do not understand what it means ... neither I did understand the comment of NoctyQ but those drawings are 10 yrs old , made with a pen and then shaded with a pencil then scanned ...
I ll post soemething new next time as I get to make something ....
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The shield looks flat and the angle of the hand isn't the same as the shield. I think it's about the perspective. For drawing tutorials, I highly recommend to check out Feng Zhu's Youtube channel, I've learn a lot from him!
http://www.youtube.com/user/FZDSCHOOL
That said your style is fantastic, what resonates with me is that it really looks like a medieval woodcut. The high level of detail in the background flattens the image, but this also evokes a comparison to wood cuts.
What I might try is to experiment with hatching instead of shading with the side of your pencil, this would really make your drawings pop.
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/9601/vaevictis.jpg
updated main post ...
The clouds, while great, do not transition into the grass well or around the horse. The composition is also much better.
Have you considered illustrating in ink? a painted wash would really compliment your style.
You just need to work on your forms and lighting more. I would also be mindful of the pressure your applying to your marks. In the first picture the mountains have the same line density and darkness as the fella in the foreground which is mucking up the depth of the scene.
I would say you're definitely on the right track, just need to tighten some stuff up.
I have a quick question - Are you using a single pencil to do all of this, or do you have a set of varying grades?
Aside from a few technical issues, I think you might benefit from taking a step back and analyzing your drawing process. It's easy to get lost in your drawings because it's all so literal. Detail is great, but sometimes in order to create a more pleasing image you have to be willing to omit unimportant details so that the important ones can shine. Someone should be able to glance at your image and immediately understand what's going on and where they should be looking.
I think painting might help you develop this sense. The power of simply suggesting details and not getting lost trying to draw every blade of grass can do wonders for your overall approach to art. You can see what I mean by examining great paintings up close. You might be surprised how little explicit detail there really is, but it all works at a distance, and is better for it.
If you want to stick with pencils maybe you can try exploring more simplistic line drawings. There's a reason why stylized art works so effectively, and trying to work that thinking process into your drawings can help you decide what's really important for the image.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6178/discoveryk.jpg
On this I know faces do Suck ...
I love the detail and design of the scene though
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/291/venationes.jpg
A part of me hope that you will deliver something equal to a shaky stick figure..
But you seem to have a lot of skills and perceptions that is hard to shake off, especially since you frequent a art forum :thumbup:. Want moooaar!
//edit: Amazon, not ebay. (Although you could probably find them on ebay as well..)
I didnt see the tablet part; the transfer from paper to digital is a hard and frustrating one. like anything else it takes time. spend several days drawing on the tablet. it took me days in hours to get used to it but now I freaking love digital, so much more flexable, faster, cleaner the onely downside is you have no "tangible" work, but then again you can print it out so...
i dont think there are tutorials on paper to tablet...work work work.
I ll post soemething new next time as I get to make something ....