The Elevator .. small scene

ayoub44

hi guys

i'm working on new small environement .. is a elevator scene
so i start with collecting some reference and blocking out my scene
i will using UDK for this one ; and i need some feedback please
now i'm making the hipoly :





i think , i don't have to make the elevator button inside because will be invisible :poly141:

tell me wath you think :: crits welcome

jimmypopali

Well it's still early on, so keep going!

EMC3D

Go mirrors edge style IMO!

What are you highpolying by the way? Is it a specific type with lots of detail on? If not just do basic bevels and leave it to the texture work.

Razgriz

I would really think this through before you dive into it, I can see plenty of problems arising if you don't plan your composition and scene first. An elevator is a very hard game space to do well, even if you increase the real-world scale, and finding good camera angles could be a disaster.

Secondly, it's not very much fun to look at like this. Most of the interest in an elevator would be the... buttons... and without an inside shot (which would require either closing the doors, or modeling the hallway outside), there isn't much to look at.

Make sure you know where its going. Other than that, decent start.

G3L

If possible try to add a story to this elevator scene if this is an area you'd like to explore. First thing that came to my head is in Left4Dead 2 when you get out of the elevator into the fire and zombies and everything is burned and destroyed...

Maybe you can add some elements like that to the scene which will do away with just having an elevator there on its own. This is simply a suggestion but you might have another idea so...

ajr2764

Hi there. I think you may want to think deeper on the composition and story of the scene before diving into hi-poly modeling. Perhaps you build out more of the space around the elevator, the hallway leading to it and have it be the focal point. I personally wouldn't bother trying to model a hi-poly of certain things that really wouldn't benefit from it.

ayoub44

hi guys , you right the scene is look not too much detail on there , i'm trying to get more refernce sheet and put more details on that .. about the scene will like a broken elevator and a little diry and blood on it , close to horror style or someting , i have see some video for resedent evil 5 videos and get some good idea

update soon ^^

Free_Fall

If you where going to make it horror'ish I would make it a older styled elevator myself.. Just because it's more scary

And maybe a piece on the middle maybe to give something to put pull attention?

ayoub44

back

@Free_Fall: like you said , i have to put more object to put attention .. i'm working on that

some assest for the scene :





wath you think ^^

Builder_Anthony

Brail for blind near buttons?

ayoub44

@Builder_Anthony : I didn't understand wath you mean .. ^^

i make the hipoly of the wall , it look good .. and one assest for the inside
the door look like a sc-fi wall , ^^"

Builder_Anthony

Alot of elevators have writing in brail so people that are blind can understand what floor they are on.Im not really sure what they brail says because i cant read brail.It is often placed in a area near buttons on elevators and i thought it might be a small neat detail.

Jessica Dinh

Hey you have some neat detail pieces here, but the renders are kindof blurry and jaggedy. What render filter are you using - area?

Free_Fall

Jessica Dinh wrote: »

Hey you have some neat detail pieces here, but the renders are kindof blurry and jaggedy. What render filter are you using - area?

I think he just uses viewport screenshots.

ayoub44

hi , about the render is just viewport screenshots like Free_Fall say

myles

I know you've already made some progress with the highpoly models but I think if you push this in a totally different direction you could do something much more interesting than what basicly comes down to a polished box.
I think some one suggested this earlier but going for a more old style elevator with decorative casing would be a whole lot more fun, heres some examples I found quickly

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/1e/7f/39/great-old-elevator-to.jpg
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/17/2d/b5/old-style-elevators.jpg
http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/ADT3956.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3512/3253876968_4f177b1dc5.jpg

ayoub44

@Myles : thanks man , i'm thinking about that

here more update ... now it's time for backing normal map and AO ..

wip :



happy to hear your crits ^^

ayoub44

still backing my scene



Question :
* i export my object to udk as ASE formal but i get some bad mesh , i don't know why ? and when i try to export it as FBX i get flip faces @_@ ugrrrr....

myles

Show us a picture of "Some bad mesh" from the ase export, ive never had a issue with the exporter.

ayoub44

ayoub44

Problem Fixed and i get my scene to UDK
and starting Texturing too
here some shot :
i'm not good a UDK or lighting so need feedback and crits on it and Texturing

LateWhiteRabbit

Right now the texture on the wall panel has too many obvious details and scratches to tile well. Even from a distance, like in your last picture, it is obvious that the panels are showing the exact same wear and tear.

Also, the specular highlight is too wide and diffuse. It makes the panels look more plastic than metal. Plug in a higher constant into the Spec Power node of your material. You may also want to differentiate the scratches more on your specular map so they don't have the same reflective quality as the smooth metal around them.

Finally, the actual wall panel mesh doesn't look very good tiled 3 times for a wall. Ideally, there should be only one stripe running horizontally or two, with one at the top and one at the bottom. Likewise the vents look excess in that number. I've never seen a hallway with more than one row of vents on each side of the hall. Try modeling a couple more different types of panels and use them to break up the tiling meshes you currently have.

It's coming along. Keep it up!

ayoub44

@LatewhiteRabbit : thanks , . in the panel i delete the spec map but still the same , i think is from smoothing group

so back with not big update :

making a new wall :poly136:



wath next :

*making a floor
*finish texturing
*adding more assest like paper .. ect
*learning more about lighting

crits welcome

ayoub44

back with a texture for the main door .. now i'm going to make hipoly for floor

Treacharous

Looks like your taking the elevator to a whole new level. Pun intended :P

ayoub44

back to my scene .. so here is last update and there is a lot of thing that i have to textured and need to make a good lighting more darker , i try to use decals on the floor just for test ( decals from udk ) ...



tell me wath you think ^^

ayoub44

NEW UPDATE :