A gentleman

Zwebbie

I posted this in the WAYWO thread a couple of days ago, but I figured a WIP thread might be handy. So here it is.

A well-to-do gentleman of the early 17th century Netherlands. An era when fancy facial hair and stylish hats met, and were combined with ridiculous shoes.



Quickie paintover to give an idea:



I'll be going for a low poly of about 10k.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to make such fancy facial hair for the low poly? I think the moustache would work with just alphas, but I'm not sure if the beard will be possible or easy without volume.

Sean VanGorder

Just wanted to say I love the sculpt man, you nailed the head.

I don't really know much about characters, so I don't have any suggestions for the facial hair, but if you can pull off the mustache with alphas, I think it should work pretty well for the beard too.

DarkStar

Yes great design. the head look perfect , he only need a sword now!

Snader

You might want to have a bit more color - or atleast echo the white around the legs (white bowties on the shoes? white socks?)

P442

agree with Snader. He is looking very much like a pilgrim or some stuffy bureaucrat

Zwebbie

You can hardly blame me for 17th century fashion! Have a look at Frans Hals's paintings, black is exactly what a gentleman would dress in.

Snader

White socks, though.

Zwebbie

Still working on this! Below is the lowpoly with a couple of bakes, in Marmoset, at just under 10k triangles. I think 1024^2 for the texture will do. Texturing time!

gibson543

nice! I was wondering when you were gonna pick this up, the only thing I really don't like is how the bottom of his shirt is so even all around.

StefanH

hey its nice man. Something about the anatomy really throws me off though.. I think his crotch is too high and his shoulders a bit nonexistent. Legs look long and arms short.
He looks a bit like a toy not like a real person. also the bent on the lower right leg is too much IMO.
I love the head .
Try to imagine the underlying skeleton and you will see that the torso is really short. Well I guess thats what im trying to say lol

Zwebbie

Gibson543: Will fix! Thank you.

StefanH: You're completely right - I wish I'd seen that sooner, because it's a pain to change now. What threw me off was the belt. People back then had their belts much higher than we do, but I only implemented that on the top part.



Here, then, is a bit of fiddling: left is the original, middle a change in proportions, right a silhouette version of that second one. Is it better? I'd like to get it right this time .

Nizza_waaarg

haha, dig the character design ^^

heaps better on the proportions, could stand to be scaled in on x a little more even (possibly ). I notice all your chars have got the same style proportions going on

Anyways, love the character choice, noone does proper moustachio'd gentlemen these days :P
Hope you get all the fancy frilly bits and the hair workin well ^^

Zwebbie

Nizza gave me some more pointers over PM, so the proportions are, again, changed. He's got a longer torso. I also distributed the materials and made a bit of a start on the head (couldn't help myself). Not much of a change, but still, the eyes make a difference.



I'll be visiting the Rijksmuseum on Friday to study some actual 17th century portraits. Exciting!

PatrickL

Oh!

I love that guy's chicken.