It sucks that itunes wont run on XP anymore. It's just a sign of the times. There are plenty of software options for ripping all the music out of an iPod. Then it's just a case of choosing how you would rather manage that music. itunes has a pretty good database structure, it's not something you can jump into and mess about with outside the software environment though.
I remember when winamp was king, and it was nice to keep my tunes in folders. But those days are over. IMHO itunes does a nice job with it's database structure, and once you get used to it, it'll help you find new music thus supporting new artists.
It has been said that apple lose money on running itunes, and only break even on the app store. Where they do make money is on the hardware.
not entirely related but since you all sound like pro's.. How the hell do i keep itunes from fucking up(as in deleting) my music and contacts when using a fresh install on a new machine? Twice this has happened now.
Is it likely I'm just being an idiot by assuming the first thing I need to do is back up my iphone?
not entirely related but since you all sound like pro's.. How the hell do i keep itunes from fucking up(as in deleting) my music and contacts when using a fresh install on a new machine? Twice this has happened now.
I set iTunes to organise itself, and I make it add any imported music into a specific folder, away from my C drive. That should take care of it deleting your media.
For backing up, you can do a library backup in the new iTunes. Not sure if this works in older versions.
I know on the mac (windows should be the same I guess) you go to Settings > Advanced > iTunes Media folder location > then just set it to whatever you want. Mine is on a shared disc connected to the router and pointed to from various machines.
Anything that gets dragged into itunes ends up here. Makes re-installing painless, and makes playing music in the kitchen a joy
ms paint is really great you can visit polycount and every other website too with it.
haven´t heared that you can manage a mp3 player too with that program o0?
I really like iTunes, but then again, I don't fight it.
I buy music, drag it into iTunes, and then I can do whatever I want with it. I use iTunes every day with my iPhone, and I never have any problems I can't fix pretty easily.
Why should an up-to-date apple app be expected to work on a 9 year old competitor's OS, in Microsoft's XP?
How many current Windows apps run on the 9 year old "classic" Mac OS?
Even Microsoft have abandoned supporting XP now. For good reasons, too :P It's bloody 9 years old!
Lets be fair to xp and its users,
While xp is 9 years old - its was available for purchase as recently as October of 2010. I personally bought xp last year.
If you are still running the Windows XP on your system, Microsoft says that it will provide support until April 8, 2014
Not to mention that (from same source)
...Windows XP holds most popular operating system in world and has more than 55% market share(according to StatCounter).
So - I`m no business man but if 55% of my possible consumer market are using this OS and its supported until 2014 - I would most likely consider that my product should be compatible with that OS.
Now xp and I can get back to our sweet love making
If you are still running the Windows XP on your system, Microsoft says that it will provide support until April 8, 2014
Doesn't mean that apple should provide any support with their software
Windows XP holds most popular operating system in world and has more than 55% market share(according to StatCounter).
54% of whom are most likely office workers, admins and goverment staff that're still running the yellowing equipment it came installed on, all those years ago :P
yanno I hate Apple more now than I ever have, my old man has an iphone and he recently bought an Ipad, Im trying to set up itunes on it only to find that it doesnt work properly. My old man lives in asia, and his account is set up there, he travels alot and when he is not in the country where he signed his account up he cannot buy music. I took the thing to an apple store to get it checked out and Im told thats the way it is.. what a load of bullshit..
So after many years of berating anyone with an Apple product, I have joined the herd and bought a 2nd Gen ipod touch on the cheap (2nd hand)
I'm going to try MediaMonkey, but I have a lot of music to pass over so we'll see how it goes. I may opt to Jailbreak the thing entirely; does that work on itouch's?
But yeah resyncing is a bitch and itunes has some underling flaws that just piss people off. The only reason i have an iphone is because it was £140 for a 8Gb. My only real complaint is the fact that the newer Ipod software makes 3G & 3Gs run stupidly slow, which rumor says, it is to face fuck you till you upgrade to a Iphone4.
Start checking ebay and amazon. Most places don't carry the older cases anymore, even for my 3rd gen. It's amazing how fast places dump them, even though there's still a larger market for them.
Aye I think I'll just go for a simple red one I saw on ebay
So whats the story with the processors in these things? Will the latest games play on an itouch 2G? I heard even Plants vs Zombies is unplayable on older models of touch's/iphones...
I don't know why people bother with syncing. I just drag what I want... when I want it. I don't have enough space to fit all my music... I don't need that much. I just plan ahead like a smart person.
I have no issue with itunes. It does what I want.
As far as fucking apple... apple is giving their new os away tomorrow for $30. Yes it isn't packed with stuff... but it is still cheap.
Just use anything that plays music. Apple products such as the Ipod are so socially commercialized that old people are starting to call all mp3s in general, Ipods.
stupid old people, never understood that the walkman was a sony only product and not every damn casette player in the world :poly142:
So whats the story with the processors in these things? Will the latest games play on an itouch 2G? I heard even Plants vs Zombies is unplayable on older models of touch's/iphones...
So whats the story with the processors in these things? Will the latest games play on an itouch 2G? I heard even Plants vs Zombies is unplayable on older models of touch's/iphones...
I can only speak for the iPhone since the only iPods I've had are the 'classic' style, but for PvZ style games I'd have thought you would be ok.
A lot of the Apps/Games have the requirements in the description on the App Store, like it'll
say 'Requires iPhone/iPod Touch 2nd Gen' etc. Also, look out for the games that have 'lite' or free versions so you can grab them and try them out.
I'm not sure which iPhone equivalent the 2nd G iPod Touch is, but if it's the 3G, then a lot of the newer iPhone games, especially anything with heavy 3D graphics may not play well, if at all.
If I'm honest though, that may not be a bad thing... as much as I love playing some of the 3D-centric games simply for the wow factor of playing them on a phone, oftentimes the best games are the ones with simple graphics. For example; Game Dev Story, Cut the Rope, Fieldrunners.
I only know that the newer iOS' could not be installed on gen 2 and older, and it was because of the processor. I was going to reference it earlier, but I didn't want to sound like I was poo-pooing your purchase. The iPod touches are great devices for music and movies, even if you can't get the latest software (and some games).
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Thanks for the tipp! It's so easy, why i didn't saw it
It sucks that itunes wont run on XP anymore. It's just a sign of the times. There are plenty of software options for ripping all the music out of an iPod. Then it's just a case of choosing how you would rather manage that music. itunes has a pretty good database structure, it's not something you can jump into and mess about with outside the software environment though.
I remember when winamp was king, and it was nice to keep my tunes in folders. But those days are over. IMHO itunes does a nice job with it's database structure, and once you get used to it, it'll help you find new music thus supporting new artists.
It has been said that apple lose money on running itunes, and only break even on the app store. Where they do make money is on the hardware.
EDIT - wow, Itunes won't run on XP anymore? Now that's bullshit.
http://www.tgdaily.com/software-features/51463-apple-allows-flash-developers-back-into-the-fold
Jist of it is, Apple has changed its dev license so that 3rd party apps are allowed, which means you can use flash apps on your iphone / ipod.
Though not natively, you will need to use:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/packagerforiphone/
To get any flash based app onto the iphone/ipod.
But it's good news all the same, apple still has control via the app store though.
Is it likely I'm just being an idiot by assuming the first thing I need to do is back up my iphone?
Why should an up-to-date apple app be expected to work on a 9 year old competitor's OS, in Microsoft's XP?
How many current Windows apps run on the 9 year old "classic" Mac OS?
Even Microsoft have abandoned supporting XP now. For good reasons, too :P It's bloody 9 years old!
I set iTunes to organise itself, and I make it add any imported music into a specific folder, away from my C drive. That should take care of it deleting your media.
For backing up, you can do a library backup in the new iTunes. Not sure if this works in older versions.
Anything that gets dragged into itunes ends up here. Makes re-installing painless, and makes playing music in the kitchen a joy
Curious as to how they would lose money on app like that ?
haven´t heared that you can manage a mp3 player too with that program o0?
and I say Fuck whoevers using them cheap cassette walkman.
Don't make me throw Maple Syrup and poutine!!! :poly127:
Damn you for making me hungry
I buy music, drag it into iTunes, and then I can do whatever I want with it. I use iTunes every day with my iPhone, and I never have any problems I can't fix pretty easily.
Anyways. On the serious note. I never bothered to find some other program to upload my music on my ipod. (ipod classic here).
I only use itunes. =\
My brothers, REBEL!
...oh, sorry, this isn't some sort of epic novel.
Lets be fair to xp and its users,
While xp is 9 years old - its was available for purchase as recently as October of 2010. I personally bought xp last year.
(from http://tech18.com/microsoft-windows-xp-sales-october-22.html)
Not to mention that (from same source)
So - I`m no business man but if 55% of my possible consumer market are using this OS and its supported until 2014 - I would most likely consider that my product should be compatible with that OS.
Now xp and I can get back to our sweet love making
54% of whom are most likely office workers, admins and goverment staff that're still running the yellowing equipment it came installed on, all those years ago :P
It recognizes iproducts.
Just right click an mp3 and 'send to iproduct'
it also lets you browse your mp3s on those iproducts and copy to your pc.
http://www.mediamonkey.com/
I'm going to try MediaMonkey, but I have a lot of music to pass over so we'll see how it goes. I may opt to Jailbreak the thing entirely; does that work on itouch's?
But yeah resyncing is a bitch and itunes has some underling flaws that just piss people off. The only reason i have an iphone is because it was £140 for a 8Gb. My only real complaint is the fact that the newer Ipod software makes 3G & 3Gs run stupidly slow, which rumor says, it is to face fuck you till you upgrade to a Iphone4.
So whats the story with the processors in these things? Will the latest games play on an itouch 2G? I heard even Plants vs Zombies is unplayable on older models of touch's/iphones...
awwww I didnt see this until now..
next time I see my old man I'll get this on it
I have no issue with itunes. It does what I want.
As far as fucking apple... apple is giving their new os away tomorrow for $30. Yes it isn't packed with stuff... but it is still cheap.
2. linux
3. ???
4. profit
( just kidding, I love apple drama, go on!!!
I don't care about Apple, or iTunes, or any of that stuff.
They just happen to be the only ones that I have found that can provide me with what I want. All other mp3s seem to have crappy GB limits.
stupid old people, never understood that the walkman was a sony only product and not every damn casette player in the world :poly142:
I can only speak for the iPhone since the only iPods I've had are the 'classic' style, but for PvZ style games I'd have thought you would be ok.
A lot of the Apps/Games have the requirements in the description on the App Store, like it'll
say 'Requires iPhone/iPod Touch 2nd Gen' etc. Also, look out for the games that have 'lite' or free versions so you can grab them and try them out.
I'm not sure which iPhone equivalent the 2nd G iPod Touch is, but if it's the 3G, then a lot of the newer iPhone games, especially anything with heavy 3D graphics may not play well, if at all.
If I'm honest though, that may not be a bad thing... as much as I love playing some of the 3D-centric games simply for the wow factor of playing them on a phone, oftentimes the best games are the ones with simple graphics. For example; Game Dev Story, Cut the Rope, Fieldrunners.