[WIP] Sci Fi Battlesuit: Angel

Firebat

Hi

I've just started the new character. This one will be only portfolio staff.

Concept:





Body and face:





And the block in / Proportion sketch.




It's slowly time for HP modeling.

imyj

Looking nice so far, I look forward to seeing how this turns out. You've really managed to pack some detail in there!

Firebat

imyj Thnx. I'll do my best with the details

UP. I started retopology. I marked red the pieces made HP already.

SaferDan

wow this looks amazing!

Im excited to see it finshed!

grantthompson

dude looks amazing.!

The detail is great

One quick question though im a bit of a newb at 3D modelling.. You know your first blockout model, did you create the model concerntrating soley on the shapes & forms and not worrying about topology, triangle or n-gons. Then once completed, go on to working at the topology and high-poly. Its the workflow that I am trying to get right any help is much appreciated

Mind

HP seems to be on track, really eager to see more

Emil Mujanovic

This is looking rad so far! Keep it up.

Firebat

SaferDan: Thnx.
grantthompson: Ok. So the hardest thing, is to not worry about typology in first stage Only masses and proportions matters. When u are satisfied with result, its time to retopo. Try to find every triangle and change it to 4-5 gons and the most important, in every change in mesh remember about about overall shape. I think the best tutorial about this workflow is the one from bulgarov: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/544/

Mind: Thnx.
Emil Mujanovic: Thnx. Ill try to updating as much as I can.

Now small update. I changed the concept a little bit. JetPack was removed and replaced with the wings (on this screen wings are just started). I hope u like it.

Illusive

is it wrong that my eyes are drawn to her crotch lol
for real though it looks awesome

Wiktor

Holy crackers!
That looks freakin' amazing!

PatrickL

She has a bit of a horse face, and I don't see any practical battle suit having high heels... But those are just personal preference. It's looking really awesome so far! And to echo Illusive, the density of the armor definitely draws the eye to the crotch.

SyncViewS

Hi, yours is a really nice model, but I think it has a flaw in base female anatomy. The legs, starting from the sculpted model, don't look very feminine, but quite skinny and straight. The bad impression is enhanced by the armor which makes the general shape of each leg look like a sort of cylinder or very elongated truncated cone.

To have an idea of what I'm referring to, take a look at the Loomis' reference polished by Gauss, and maybe compare it to your sculpted base. I think you've lost some of the most beautiful female lines.

Firebat

Illusive: Coz the crotch has first finished details.
Disting: Thnx!
PatrickL: Yea. I'll take more care to face when i finish armor. I rally need to improve my face modeling skills
SyncViewS: Thnx for advice, but in this stage any change of base shape will be painful. I'll do a small reshape when everything will be done in zbrush.


Progress:



and HI ress:
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/8417/17hires.jpg

roosterMAP

dude, the wings are SOOOOOO amazing.

SimonT

really nice!

Crash

Feet are tiny

SimonT

I think the forms are floating very well most time (especially on the wings) but on the legs i miss that the shapes are support each other especially on the upper leg.

Besides that: great work!

Raider

loving the armour, the feet need a bit of boosting up and that face needs fixing, as someone said it looks really horsey?

lildragn

Looks really good so far, but please please fix the corners of her mouth, it's really killing the face... I see this mistake so much with female characters The bottom lip usually subtly rolls under the top lip.

The wing design is very cool btw.

~t

Firebat

roosterMAP: thnx!
SimonT: Thnx for comment. I'm still working on detail( cleaning it and fitting every part to each other)
Crash: Hmm...I'll scale it up a little.
Raider: Yea I'll take care about face later.
lildragn: Thnx. The advices will be helpful when I'll focus on the face.

A little up: (the red areas are still untouched):






And Hi ress:

whats_true

I really like it. +1 for her not having Watermelons up front if you know what i mean. Im unsure of the wings, but thats more of a personal pref. I like the massively huge wings that go out like an eagle. These look more like tenticals. Great progress!

zxcman

hard surface is good, but I hate her face

Saman

Cool armour! But I think her legs are a bit too small. Don't know if it's too late to change that though

XenoKratios

Man I was so wet, then I looked at her face..

I also kinda liked the rocket idea better, not to sure, the wings are a bit overdone, but then again this is an angel.

Well executed though, keep er up!

Firebat

Thnx for great advices. I've changed proportions, especially legs (I'll show it in next, probably last , HP up). For now little progress with face:

Firebat

Finished armour:




and hi res:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6222/22hiress.jpg





hi res:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5044/22innehiress.jpg

Firebat

Here is finished retopo. I had so many crashes during baking normals.
In fact this is not low poly.


25 998 tri 2048x2048 armour. And 1024 for head. AO + Normal.






Hi ress:

Zpanzer

It's rare that I say this out in the public, but I think I just came....
MY GOD! That is some awesome work there! I really look forward to your texturing!

Jungsik

you know how to model real nicely! looks great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ıomeen

So many nice comments. I think I need to contradict some people here.

I don't like the random details on the armor. Face needs a lot more work in my opinion. The hands are too wide and some parts on the whole model look too blobby like you decided to extrude them from the mesh spontaneously without the proper geometry for it.

LRoy

You used Zbrush for this? If you want to make changes to the entire form you can use Transpose Master. It merges everything into one tool and allows you to make alterations, then when you're done it pops everything back into seperate subtools.

Firebat

Zpanzer: Thnx for nice words
Jungsik: Thnx.
ıomeen: I'll try to make details less random in texturing phase, but in fact, they are little random. Especially the ones I make last. When I was tired.

LRoy: Thnx for tip. But I prefer to hold all symetris in max (only with Hard surface).

A little tweeked proportions



And wip face:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4856/43912771.jpg


EDIT ........

little fixed face:

Firebat

I've started texturing armor. Example colors sheme:

whats_true

3 and 4 look really noice for some reason. Do they have a lot of scratches on them or something?

A-N-P

3 for me. Looks sweet. Keep the updates coming. This is awesome. Great work.

lildragn

Dig number 3/6/8 in that order. Nice man

~t

nofacej

Please excuse this quick and incredibly dirty edit (check the filename to see what I think of it) but I thought I'd have a lot more success showing rather than trying to explain what I thought was off with your character's face:

Also, I think the stray lock of hair is hanging in an incredibly unnatural position.
Otherwise I really like your model, but feel the abdominal/groin region could do with some simplification. It's really distracting.

JGcount

I like your hardsurface but I sadly do not like the face. The proportions are a bit weird and she looks kindof like one of those adult dolls

It comes across as if you spent way less time on the face than the rest( I might be wrong). That isn't a good thing since the face is the most important part of a character. It is always where your eyes go first, so you better well nail it.

Firebat

Thnx everyone for the numbers. I've choosen something between 2 and 8. Because I think the bright colors will better fit to concept of angel.


Face is crap, I know. To much care about hard surface and face was forgotten. I've changed a little proportions but this is only a small touch. (thnx for overpaint). Whole face should be remodeled, but I'm rally tired of this character already. Now my goal is to finish it.



UP (Scanline, 3 uncolored lights) :




Hi ress:

whats_true

If all else fails, giver her a helmet. It might be the lighttg, but at first glance it looked like she has a double chin. Her hair is to flat on here. Give it some volume rather than it looking like she just came out of the shower with a wet head of hair. I like the color choice but would tone the secondary color a little so its not to contrasty with the line work.

Firebat

I've decided to change her face. Here is second attempt. Tell mi if its better.

Firebat

UP:

Barnstable

Fantastic hard surface modeling on the armor. Great job.

I think you improved the face, but I think the problem is now in the lower part of the face. The lips are kind of down turned in the sides, and under the chin, it slopes down a bit leading to the neck like she has a little too much fat.

Hair is looking much better though.

achillesian

turning out great!

areve

The armor looks really good!
Still the face needs more love, it's too bad because it makes the whole character overall to look, not bad, but not as good as it could with that awesome armor ^^

my advice is to use reference for the face

Firebat

Barnstable: Thnx. I tweeked a little face.

achillesian: Thnx!

FINAL (wires, textures, rig etc. I'm going to show in portfolio):




Hi ress:

n88tr

does she fly with the suit like it has little jets inside of the wings or what?

Firebat

n88tr: Thats right. There are 6 small jets.

Last update (rest shots):

Jonathan Marshall

Foot seems sort of... tiny?

Even if it isn't, I can't believe she'll kick ass in high heels. Cool armor though. I like the wings too.

Fishypants

Nice model, looks like Eve Protomecha.

Firebat

After long break I finally rendered this model with mental ray. New shaders, composition etc: