Revised Balrog (Bison)!!!

Loraine Howard iii

Hey guys, I decided to redo an old model of Balrog I posted on here a couple years ago. Since my modeling skills progressed, I couldn't stand to look at the old model anymore, so I decided to give him a make over. I'm gonna present this piece as a high poly render. I'm currently fixing textures and setting up my render scene for a final shot. Please comment on my new model.

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Raider

Hot damn at that face, looking sweet. However the clothes are looking like they're plastic from the spec

TheTrooper

Wow! Absolutely amazing. Great work

SHEPEIRO

hot damn...agree with the cloth material..but the skins sweet

JamesArk

Amazing. Great, great stuff.

ScudzAlmighty

agreed, the face is really really good. the clothes not so much.

Visceral

no haircut?

ngs616

He needs the haircut!!

Loraine Howard iii

Thanks guys for all of your comments. I plan on fixing the cloths, I'm still tweaking the shader with only a diffuse map for now. Next couple days I plan on giving the clothing more love and adding his buzz hair cut.:\

Cyrael

I agree with the aforementioned clothes issue, and I would also add that the knees sculpting looks off, it looks like he almost has 3 knees instead of 1, The face looks sweeet, though one thing I may add is some more cauliflower ear would definitely emphasize the fact that he's a fighter and the amount of experience he has. Looking really nice, keep up the good work!

poostayn

Sick!! keep it up...

rumblesushi

As a Balrog player and Tyson fan, I approve

Very good work. As someone said, the clothes look a little plasticky, and to look more like Tyson / Mike Bison - the thighs should be slightly more exaggerated, and the calves slimmed down. Tyson has epic thighs used to generate the huge power in those hooks, but pretty slim calves. The character design pre SF4 is pretty much like this too.

If you're going for the more exaggerated SF4 look, that's cool, but I think the calves still stand out as being too big, he should look more top heavy.

Cyrael - Mike Bison don't got no cauliflower ear -

CJE

It looks really good but your skin texture on the body needs more color variation.

BradMyers82

I agree with CJE. But yeah man, great job working in that A symmetry on the head. Ears and nose are a really nice touch. Great job so far.

Cyrael

Rumblesushi: nah his ears arn't that bad, but they're not that good either


- there arn't any rules in streetfighting, so I figured it'd make sense to have his ears a little more messed up..

rumblesushi

But Cyrael, he's a boxer, just giving Street Fighting a go, for um, whatever reason

I say keep the ears as they are, to be more in tune with the character.

His ears look a little funny in that pic, but still not cauliflower-ish, I think his lobes just stick out a bit. Cauliflower ear is almost the opposite of that, squished little ears with no discernible shapes.

PS - I want to know who owns the epic schnoz in the shadow.

It's ironic we're discussing Tyson's ears when he is actually most famous for Cauliflowering someone else's ear hardcore.

Loraine Howard iii

hahaha, that's a big ass nose in the shadow. I plan on leaving the ear the way it is, Boxer's usually have regular ears compared to UFC fighters. While modeling Balrog I wanted to come up with my own rendition of him instead using sf4 version or comparing him to Tyson. I really just want to finish this piece I'm tired of looking at it, time to move on. Thanks for all the comments so far:)

penrod

I actually remember your previous version. This one is 100 times better!

X-One

Really nice face. As mentioned, the clothing looks too much like plastic. Tighten up the spec/gloss. I'm really thinking just changing the spec colour in the blue areas to a lighter blue would go a long way.

Cyrael

rumble: it is one HUGE Snoz.. I never saw that the first time, and yes google mike tyson and ear and you'll get some rather hilarious results:)


Loraine Howard iii: I agree with the comment about boxers ear being relatively tame compared to UFC fighters, just throwin' out some suggestions... Wrap this piece up cus i'm diggin' it hardcore! I've always wanted to get around to doing some SF art. Always loved the game..

Visceral

Cyrael wrote: »

rumble: it is one HUGE Snoz.. I never saw that the first time, and yes google mike tyson and ear and you'll get some rather hilarious results:)


Loraine Howard iii: I agree with the comment about boxers ear being relatively tame compared to UFC fighters, just throwin' out some suggestions... Wrap this piece up cus i'm diggin' it hardcore! I've always wanted to get around to doing some SF art. Always loved the game..

Well that kind of ear is common within wrestling beacuse of the damage the ears keeps taking.

I quote Wikipedia

Wrestler's Ear is one term used to describe the result, because wrestling is one of the most common ways such an injury occurs. Cauliflower ear is another name for the same condition, because the thickened auricle can resemble that vegetable.

Loraine Howard iii

Still playing around with the nylon shader, not sure If I'm there yet. What do you think?

Loraine Howard iii

I'm almost done texturing Balrog. I'm still not happy with the specular map on the body and the logos need reprojecting. After I'm done fixing those problems, I'll apply some dirt maps for his clothing and hdr.

Joseph Silverman

Clothes need lessss collorrr in the spec. And if you want to use that nylon shader, you need to alter the scult -- nylon has these very punchy, crispy folds that i'm not seeing in your model. Looks more like wet plastic.

Personally i'd just go with a softer/more satin fabric texture.

woogity

this is lookin pretty tight, i would like to see more color variation in the skin as well tho, the colored spec on the body really needs to be toned down, just look at the contrast between the highlight color on the head and the body.

c0ldhands

Those veins will pop any minute now!

NathanA

This is looking awesome!
I would however tend to agree with rumblesushi about the legs being too thick.
As he is now I would actually be anticipating him to kick me rather than punch me, looks like a kickboxer more than a boxer. That or maybe fatten up the gloves... Just need to make sure it looks like 100% of the pain is going to come from those fists.

Loraine Howard iii

This will be his new pose, I plan on fixing his arms since they stretched in the pose. I'm almost finished with his hair too, I'll post some pictures later

Loraine Howard iii

Sorry guys for taking so long, but my hands been hurting lately from modeling. Here's a quick update, there's still many things to fix. Next update I will have a spec map 2 on the body, fix the hair and other minor things.

Bakayoukai

wow thats looking super sweet, i really love it!!! what programs are you using?

Vguhal

Pose is looking great, really dynamic. Like you said there are still some issues but I am really looking forward to the finished product .

Loraine Howard iii

Hey Guys, I'm almost done with Balrog. I redid the wrinkles in his clothing, I tried to pay close attention to each fold. I need to rework the shader for the chain, I think a darker color and a reflection map will make it stand out more. I might put the chain in a swinging motion to the side of his body. After I'm done with that I'll find a camera angle I like the best. I should be done in a couple of days.:femme:

TheMadArtist

That looks awesome, love the pose and the folds turned out really good. The only crit I would have is the gloves feel like they should be bigger.

catstyle

very cool man. I like the fact that he has almost cartoon proportions yet still looks very realistic

almighty_gir

the shoulders look like giant tumors... you'd have gotten a much better visual finish by exaggerating the chest outward and making the shoulders smaller, giving him the same overall "big" look, but without the bulbousness of his current form.

Loraine Howard iii

Hey Guys, thanks for all of your comments.I'm finally finished with Balrog. Throughout the process I've learned alot while modeling and rendering him. I'm glad that I can say I'm finally finished because, this model drove me crazy for the past couple of weeks.

Electro

Wow awesome! Good job!

Bishop

You got your stuff on the CGHUB banner. Might I say that's Pimpin'

Planning on doing any more SF characters?

Visceral

thoose shoulders might confuse him with a Terran Marine.

wizo

Perfect!!! Great work!

3DRyan

Awesome! The difference from before is night and day. Especially the hair.

Loraine Howard iii

Electro-thanks man

Bishop- Thanks alot for the props, Actually I want to model Gen since he's my favorite character.

Visceral- I thought Balrog killed Ryu, didn't you see the tattoo on those Terran shoulders:)

wizo- Thanks Dude

3dRyan- Thanks for your comment, I stayed up like all night trying to finish.lol

Loraine Howard iii

I was playing around with an environment for my character, tell me what you think so I can correct any problems.

Avanthera

that skin is looking awesome.
the clothes look a bit off though, they are a bit high in specular, especially the white bits, I would tone it all down
and/or drop the glossiness on it all.

butt_sahib

yeah the skin texture is great especially the speculars. but i have to agree...the clothe specular really needs to be dialed down. Alot.

drelectro

i dont know the game so i cant judge how close it is to that, but i think you have some serious anatomic errors: his head is way too small and it looks like it is attached to his upper chest (it definitely lacks a muscular neck). his forearms and gloves are too small compared to his massive shoulders.. it looks like he got child hands. and finaly the shoes: they are too wide at the heels..

apart from that.. the model details and shaders looks amazing.

n88tr

for having such huge shoulders and delts [those bowling balls] he has literally no trapezius muscles which is on his frame, like impossible.

Cerulean

Nice work, love the exaggerated upper body!

Firebert

i would work more on the background. specifically the scale reference. right now the perspective angle you have chosen really diminishes his overall size. i would also try to make the background more interesting. could be really simple too since it will all be in the distance, so blur the piss out of it, but at least it is something there. definitely change the angle of view though.

character looks great though! excellent stuff man!

did a crap paintover to illustrate.

woody_294

Totally hate that dude! Cannot get into him with my Ryu...

Love your model of him though, I like that you've gona with a proportionate head. The gloves look properly spot on. If I had one thing to criticise I would say the wraps could do with some variation on one side.

With the nylon I think you need to tone down the sag, nylon weighs next to sod all.

Loraine Howard iii

Sorry guys, I forgot to check my thread. I've been so busy with other models I forgot about this one.

Cerulean-thanks man

Firebert- thanks for your paintover, When I get more time I'll fix the background.

woody_294- yeah the gloves do need more variations.