Soldier

soda

HI!
I start new model, to help my friend in school. I`m make basemesh and try to find proportion.
I always make female characters, and now I have a litle problems with male proportions
I hope I finish this time.



I`m make overpait, because my friends tell me chest are too tight. What do You think??

pliang

Maybe some wires too, I'd like to know why are you smoothing him up so much?

The_Kozmonaut

You need to write New and Old in English so people that don't read Polish understand which is which.
I think the new one is too boxy, the old one looks more natural to me

soda

Oh! I forgot about polish signatures I`m change them. Thanks for Yours opinon The_Kozmonaut.
Too smooth?? Secound pic it`s shot from ZBrush. Dosn`t know what You mean
I will show wires when I come back from work, but it is basemesh, polycount and isolines are not important.

Michael Knubben

I agree entirely, the old one is much more natural. That's what I really liked about this, actually, the natural stance.

woogity

i gotta agree with your friend, if you are not going for stylized proportions emphasizing the character's legs for some reason, you should probably broaden up the back and shoulders.

Vertrucio

Alternatively, thin down the legs and hips a bit, which then helps emphasizes the shoulders and chest more.

soda

Hi again!
I`m work a bit with this character. No time to make more ( I have holiday). I must finish few details, but half body is done. If You have sugestion about anatomy please write or draw it. Each time I make character I must learn anatomy again
I hope I have time to make it faster. Update soon

http://s245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/soda1973/?action=view&current=facet1.mp4



Thanks all for critique it`s help a lot.

chrisradsby

You're making nice progress, looks like a good start. I really like the stance even though it might be a bit extreme, from the side view it looks like he's a little bit off balance. Other than that nice work indeed!

SimonT

i like the proportions really! go on!

Ihazard

I really like the style, I hope you finish too!

soda

Thanks for replies!
I make more with this character. Anatomy I think looks OK. What do You think?? Now I will finish details like ears, nose and other, then I make retopology.

Ihazard Thanks.

SimonT - Thanks.

chrisradsby - I have change pose I hope now look better. Thanks for sugestion about it.

samgriffiths

Something about the shoulders is off, I think they need to be broader when compared to his other muscles, his legs (thighs) seem very large compared to his torso.

WWW.BODYBUILDING.COM

check anatomy from real life photos not anatomy charts.

Joseph Silverman

Sam, not to be an asshole, but those crits are absolutely wrong for an athletic (not bodybuilder) man.

Plus, that would look boring, even if it was realistic.

Digging this.

samgriffiths

This guy isn't athletic, he is massive.

Joseph Silverman

samgriffiths wrote: »

This guy isn't athletic, he is massive.

Powerlifting is a form of athletics.

Wrestling is a form of athletics.

Strongmen are athletes.

Bodybuilders are not, and consequently have different physical characteristics. Principally, disproportioned shoulders, lats, biceps, and legs.

shotgun

First of all, this guy is eff'ing cool. Love the pose.

As for the shoulders thing, you might get this due to them not being aligned with his hip-bones, a common proportion. Don't think that's a negative tho.
Only crit is his elbow seems to rest too low.

SadamHu

That looks great, nice stance and really good muscle groups.

soda

Eh, sorry guys, but I don`t understand. Is a point shoulders are to muscular or what??
Mayby someone have time to make paintover??

shotgun

Well, I'm posting this even though I don't think the proportions are wrong. I think the shoulders comments were as a resullt of them not being as wide as the hip-bones, which simply made them feel not-as-big/wide/muscular. I've tried to alter them just to see how it looks -- also elongated the forearms:



I think your version has more character.

ZacD

The 2nd guy looks like typical "super hero" or hulk proportions, it really depends on what the artists is going for, they both look good, but the upper body does look kinda small (in the original), those legs are massive.

Raider

i'd say an in between of both would be a good fit

Joseph Silverman

i'm late to get back on this but i still want to champion big legs small torso -- it's both a realistic shape (a strongman competitor squats a lot more than he benches, it's only bodybuilders and young men trying to land chicks who focus on their upper body like that) and a visually interesting shape for a videogame character.

Shotgun's paintover is definitely solid, recognizable, and what i'd probably draw if i was asked to make a big strong dude on a contract or something but for personal work why not go with the unique/cool bodytype that the modal has now!

I will say, though, those knarled up knees are way too much of a focal point atm. The lack of sharp detail anywhere else compared to them is awkward, you need to punch up some of the more angular shapes in other parts of the legs or tone down that super deep creasing.

n88tr

with the really wide shoulders he looks like more of a super-human character
quads need work, they looks like sagging balls of fat
and some seperation of the calves would look nice too. I don't think I've ever seen calves like he has there.

TheWinterLord

i like the small shoulders, now he has something different from other peoples works and I think it looks great! Keep it up! im gonna try make something cool with similar proportions thanks