Space Yacht WIP
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This asset is a large space yacht that will be floating around in a Game Prototype I am working on (http://quespeck.com/thehunt.html). Concept not by me, but by a fellow student on the project. My question to you my lovely poly counters is how I should go about when texturing and unwrapping it best. I am leaning towards maybe to two 2048's or maybe using multi subs. But I though maybe I should use symmetry an most of the large pieces of the ship since it's design is symmetrical. Although I don't really wan the diffuse to be, the ships usually only seen from one side at a time since it's so big. Also comments and crits welcomed! Also, I figured I'd pimp out another asset I just fished for the game as well. Th last pic is of a melee weapons that will be used but he player in-game called the Vibro Skinner!
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Where do people go on board, I see no airlock? There are doors at the bridge, but regular ol' earth doors are sorta useless in space. Those doors might have use if it could enter the atmosphere, but I'm not seeing any landing gear. It might be possible to have people enter with a small craft, but there's no (clear) hangar.
You have a biiig empty surface in front of the bridge, how about doing something cool there, like making a sun deck?
It seems a bit bland up their. Over all, it looks like the sides are to flat and becomes a bit boring in the 3 quarter view. The side profile is nice, but the creveses could be pushed a bit more to give it more definition. The side for instance seems to flat to me. Maybe pull a hull piece out more to break it up some. It could use more detail too; emissives and just random bits to make the large empty surfaces seem less boring. I mean, they didnt make that out of one giant piece of metal. Its broken up big time. Homeworld has some awesome degins for ships and im sure you could get some referance off of Star Trek to see what I mean
I dont thing your quite on the money with the referance too. Try doing an overlay with your ref and render so you can see what i mean.
Im also hopeing thats not your low poly in the wireframe. You have a lot of unneeded lines that could bring your tri count down considerably (try going half of what you have), and useing it else were.
As for textures. I say do it on one 2048. It looks like you could get away with 2048*1024 possibly. It really depends on how close your gona get. To me, its an over kill if you do more than that.
Your prop is cool. It has a Halo feel to it. Its a little bland, but Im not sure what your art team is going for.
Hope this helps dude :]
Keep pushing!
@A-N-P: Thanks for the suggestion about the sails man. Unfortunately the overall design of the ship is already set in stone due to our deadlines.
@Mechadus: haha, thanks! I will for sure rely on some good texturing to really push this asset. I look forward to more input during th e texturing stage!
Lastly, again i'll iterate just because i am wondering: Symmetrical UVs on this bad boy? Good or no?
You've got the wrong definition of a a yacht I'm afraid.
@whats_true
I disagree with your statement about the flat sides. This is supposed to be a luxury craft, and thus very sleek. In fact I think it could stand to be simplified a lot in the sides. If I were to change anything to the global shape it'd be tapering the front a bit to make it resemble the bow of a boat more. This also wouldn't affect the sideview.
You're right about the wireframe though, hadn't even looked at that properly yet. Maybe he's using too much in places, but depending on the player's location he might also be spending too little in places. It's mostly inconsistent.
@SouthpawSid
I see you're often moving rectangles and circles that are located on the crevices ) to only one plate. If you have problems getting those in nicely with subD, just make a floater, the object seems flat enough.
Compared to the concept, the model is elongated, which I personally prefer, but it does deviate from the concept.
Your lowpoly shows inconsistency, and a lot of it. Assuming this is a sort of background object, you can normalmap stuff like the windows and whatnot, and you can remove about 80% of your chamfers. Could you give us one render of how big it would be ingame, at most? (if it's going above, say 1920x1080, just take a screenshot from where the characters eyes would be).
Also: poly saver!
I'd go for a tiling texture myself, and then having a blending map. Here's an example, using 4x 512²:
The first UV channel would be to get all the pieces flat, and have the 3 materials get the same pixel density across the model, and then getting some basic materials in place, then use the blue channel (I drew it in but it turned out not to be needed) for a decal map (you can add some random cuts and damage stuff on here too by) with a separate UV channel
The normal map would also be a separate channel.
The sample materials would be tiled, and a 512² or even a 256² should suffice for background use. The normal map would be a lot larger, say 2048, to get nice detailed bumps. I'd make
Looking good man, for some reason im put in mind of the vaygr from homeworld. i think its the stripe.
Only thing thats standing out to me is the purple bits at the back of the intakes (what do they intake in space?
lol, oops. :poly136: Thanks man!
4 separate textures, of 512x512 pixels, 1 cream, 1 blue, 1 grey, 1 with the blend map. Not a 1024x1024 (1024²) because then you could not tile the different materials which is what you want.
How about the bottom? I think you could easily knock off about 1000-2000 tris if you cut the chamfers on those 3 tubes of toothpaste in the middle. I just thought of something, which is pretty unsafe: there are no railing or whatever.
You'll need to ask your whoeversincharge if you're allowed too, but you could do something like this, with indents so theres a sort of railing:
also shows what I mean with the tapering.
@Snader I know yachts don't need to have sails but as the ship will be based in space I thought a nice sail would set it apart from the usual spaceships that will be floating around it.
I'm also a fan of the railings idea. Overall fantasy yacht = inspiring. Good work, keep it up.
Actually... what I meant to say is... it just needs some kind of scale reference, so we can get an idea of how massive it is. Railings would definitely help!
Too bad it's a space yacht, no pool on top with chicks in bikinis awwww
Some kind of darker setting for presentations would be nice too, with the windows having glows. Keep goooooing