CV-10 Pistol

Raider

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Started working off this sketch for a mod i'm working on



Ended up with this as high poly


and current working on the lowpoly atm, need to take out the metal piece under the slide, currently @ 2942 tris or something
*ignore the current hammer on lpoly it's been changed

JonathanF

wow... sketch is iffy without much detail.. model looks great though! looks like you made some up along the way from that base sketch too.. can we see the wires of both the high poly and low poly?

Raider

Yer tweaked some aspects of it to give it better reads in 1st person, the original slide looked pretty boring from that view.

Some wire grabs from max, still gotta optimise the gun a bit more, but this was about 1-2hrs of lpoly work

GarageBay9

I like it. Very consistent, feasible-feeling design. Looks kind of front heavy, but I have seen some crazy-looking rigs on tactical pistols, so it's not completely unbelievable.

JonathanF

here might be a couple things to try out to save some geo...
http://img2.pict.com/32/97/d7/3570827/0/1275110421.jpg

Racer445

The front reminds me very much of the HK USP and the LAM reminds me much of the one from the HK MK23 SOCOM. Those guns are both really great looking so that's a plus!

It's certainly recognizable as a pistol. The design is convincing though I can't help but think it's a little bare. You've already modeled in a little bit of text on the high so perhaps put some larger trademarks on the slide? Otherwise labels and such on the textures should help a lot.

The biggest issue I see is the sights. They're oddly thin and tall, and look rather dinky compared to the rather meaty slide and frame design. Real sights are usually quite flat and wide. Perhaps try something like these:



So yeah I'd consider having a another short look at the design and refine some things. It's a good start and looks fairly beefy and should be a good base to work from!

Raider

Little update on hpoly, i modeled the sites you actually posted racer i thought they were mad, added, a little metal plate on the from section to help add a little more detail.. i'll go back and put a few tiny screws on it as well, but it breaks up a lot of the blandness of it.

n88tr

The extended mag still looks weird to me but I guess that's personal. You just don't see that many these days, or at least I don't.

Did you fix the width of the hammer back there so it's bigger? Can't see from this angle.

Raider

yer if u look at the hi poly at the top it's the new hammer which i've since sharpened up a bit, anyway bed time

Kitteh

This gun would look a lot better if the back of the slide and frame had some slight curvature.

Racer445

Sights are backwards. :P

Yeah it could use some shapes on the rear of the slide to make it a little more interesting. Something like this.

Raider

Haha racer /facepalm i aint really a gun man (this is only my 2nd one) so i pretty much have nfi on them

K final lpoly, i really need to move on from this gun so calling it done and starting the uv. Weighs in @ 2908 tris, optimised a few more things since the render

Raider

Ok so i've never had to bake a hard surface model before so this was 2 things, 1. great learning curve, 2. an exercise in not slitting my wrists. There's a few normal map errors which i should be able to fix in PS so I'm happy with that, model comes in at 2999 tris. Enjoy

roosterMAP

very nice gun! its amazing you were able to pull that much detail from that concepts.

also, your getting some stretching near the trigger.

dur23

Did you bake with hard edges in maya?

wi_2

Great highres model rly like it

Raider

all in max

n88tr

Some funny edges I saw.

Raider

Yer they are the baking errors i was talking about which i'll fix up in PS

The main culprit is the wave edges around the circular piece on the tactical addon

Electro

Much better off fixing it with the bake, you're in for a world of pain if you're going to try manually fix that stuff and expecting good results like the other clean parts of the bake.

Pavel Petrenko

Raider - Nice work, your high poly looks very clean. But your bake have some errors, try to change topology in problem parts and rebake after. Its will be a lot better then fixing in PS.
Keep going!

Raider

Alright, probably 80% done on the texture, the gun is supposed to be about a ~5yr old combat weapon, I'll tweak the scratches a bit more but I just wanted to post progression so here we go. 3015 tris, 2048x2048 normal / spec / diffuse i need to go back and tweak the tape as well to help it blend better

Crits plx :d

vofff

woaa nice, but the scratches seems a bit over rated.

Alberto Rdrgz

the scratches are really hurting this model. nice job overall.

HAL

The scratches look way to present, also their shape suggests 'coated' by looks.

Try to define the base metal a bit more, make it dark in the diffuse and bright in the specular, that way you get that nice shine effect which makes metal look like metal.

Mind showing the maps you have so far?

//e: what makes it look most generic is that there is no contrast whatsoever in your texture. Everything just blends in grey into grey, try to make the rubber of the grip area black or something and increase the areas gloss.

//e2: little overpaint

Also for christ's sake post larger pictures pls kk?

Raider

Thx for the crits HAL they were valuable, I've gone back and changed a lot of the stuff, I've also changed the gun to a much "newer" state.

Here's a bigger image for you

ZacD

its looking nice, but the the flash light looks really flat, it'd be cool if you could do some transparency and did something like this for the shape <|

Daniel Doerksen

yeah man that be a simple good improvement would have to change textures or anything, just concave it and throw a glass cover on it

Titus S

Thank god you put tape on it, or else it wouldn't of been next gen spec!

What's with the fad with tape on guns? A lot of the time people just put that crap on there randomly to increase the indie functionality on it. I see NO functionality of it being there.

Raider

Titus if everyone made guns for a purely functional standpoint then guns wouldn't have any customization at all, scrapes on the slide to show kill tally's etc. Things which make guns none stock. That being said i did it to break up the monotony of all the metal.

Also great point on the flashlight lense, i'll go back and tweak that.

GarageBay9

Titus S wrote: »

Thank god you put tape on it, or else it wouldn't of been next gen spec!

What's with the fad with tape on guns? A lot of the time people just put that crap on there randomly to increase the indie functionality on it. I see NO functionality of it being there.

It's anchoring a pressure-switch control for the tac light / laser sight module.

Raider, that will be $19.95 + 8% tax.

Raider

Rofl garage, cash is in the mail

ZacD

I could almost see a spike or something with the tape that's used to make a pistol whip more brutal, aka spikes or barbed wire.

Kitteh

It looks like you've mapped both halves of everything separately, which is silly and wastes UV space/texturing time. Perfectly symmetrical things should generally have both halves mapped to the same UV space.

Raider

Nah i've got symmetry on some, most of the tactical gear is all symmed, handle / slide aren't

HAL

Good improvement there, but I can see another issue on the larger picture... say... did you invert the normal maps greenchannel? marmoset needs it inverted if you're using a max normal map.

If you did this, then its most likely that you didnt split the uv shells at the smooth group borders since you got fucked up black edges.

Raider

Yer i just realised that myself, it's not split at some of the edges SG edges