TF2 - Polypack - Konras

Konras

Submitted entry... better screens tomorrow and hopefully "update page".... ZzzzZzzz

1. Last Word
2. Green Whipper
3. First Contact


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Karkasmolenklok

A riding crop that does way less damage than the shovel but gives teammates a movement speed buff when you hit them.

This...is a sweet idea.

Konras

Wow.... 12 pages of Polypack threads... I can only say that I wasn't suspecting so many entry's here , but I suppose polycout magic was involved

Anyways here is my skin for soldier shovel Proportions are quite weird, but I didn't imagine that hist shovel is so short, so to match the overall geometry I was forced to shorten some distances :>

I am quite happy how it look now. I still don't know if that crack in the middle fits here... but brand new crop was somewhat boring

Emm... also I have a question... does anyone know how to import bones properly from SMD to MAX? When I imported view model of shovel I was really shocked... I ask, because I would later try to import this into game.... but now I cannot even recognize the hand bones...

If someone have (and would be so kind to share) info/tutorial about importing custom weapons I would really appreciate it

Betty Hime

I'd say if you are going to have a crack like that you should have somethngcoming out of it, otherwise, you could have just the tape with like a split going up the middle? Your hole looks a little too rounded right now.

Ikimono

Karkasmolenklok wrote: »

A riding crop that does way less damage than the shovel but gives teammates a movement speed buff when you hit them.

This...is a sweet idea.

NO IT IS NOT! Heavy does not need to become even more stupidly OP via a soldier removing the movement penalties he has.

Karkasmolenklok

Ikimono wrote: »

NO IT IS NOT! Heavy does not need to become even more stupidly OP via a soldier removing the movement penalties he has.

I was told we would be fighting men!

dickless

Ikimono wrote: »

NO IT IS NOT! Heavy does not need to become even more stupidly OP via a soldier removing the movement penalties he has.

It would be worth it to see a soldier chasing after a speeding heavy, whipping him.

Ikimono

dickless wrote: »

It would be worth it to see a soldier chasing after a speeding heavy, whipping him.

Heavy got an incredible buff recently to his speed that makes him Un-flank-able and un-ambush-able; Save for backstabs.

Making him as fast IE: The engineer would be so utterly game breaking.

Konras

Here is a little WIP of textures:


Please don't argue about speed effect. It was not my intention, I was just joking and my intention was more based on building the will of fight after having couple of meles rather than in-game stats boost

Y_M

That looks great. If you don't jiggle bone that loop I will be very disappointed.

It looks a little like his hand is loose around it, perhaps you need to scale it up in diameter?

Karkasmolenklok

Ikimono wrote: »

Heavy got an incredible buff recently to his speed that makes him Un-flank-able and un-ambush-able; Save for backstabs.

Making him as fast IE: The engineer would be so utterly game breaking.

Disguise yourself as a soldier carrying one, people will totally welcome you coming up behind them to whip them.

Khthon

I think you should consider an arrow or knife or needlegun needle or nail sticking through the crack, just to give character and explain the break.

And the break looks more like its just shaped that way and not broken. Like the wood grew that way or something. Make some jagged edges like the Pain Train or Sandman have to show the breakage.

RoronoaDSanji

if this get implemented, it will be the most bad ass melee, hurts more than weapon with blade, cuz u will be like bleeding and stuff. and more whiping!? omg,!
AWSOME! =D
oh, and ofcourse, GIGGLEBONE! yay!

Naso

Khthon wrote: »

I think you should consider an arrow or knife or needlegun needle or nail sticking through the crack, just to give character and explain the break.

And the break looks more like its just shaped that way and not broken. Like the wood grew that way or something. Make some jagged edges like the Pain Train or Sandman have to show the breakage.

Or just make it like two broken the broken ends are connected and splintered and tied up with that tape.

Konras

Thanks allot. I will definitely consider your advice and put something in that crack... it would be wise to give there a tip of demoman's broken sword... But then i don't know how it would look, probably silly. Also I will try to make cracked wood more real. About jiggle ... it is jiggling now, but I must say not in the correct way, what i noticed, hat weapon_bone is facing back not up along the model..., also when i create bone chain they letter jiggle weird like they would have been rotated similar how hey look when you import SMD into Max... i will post screens of rig later

Karkasmolenklok

Naso wrote: »

Or just make it like two broken the broken ends are connected and splintered and tied up with that tape.

Think you quoted the wrong cat jack

Naso

As I did.

Konras

Ok, as you guys suggested I added something... speaking more precise... the tip of Demoman's sword (maybe a little memorial from the WAR times... who knows )

Anyways I think it looks much more interesting now
This is still a WIP of course. I plan to add something that will hold that mess together Any suggestions are welcome of course

Tahrinya

Woah. This is a really cool concept. (:

Khthon

Now THAT my friend, is eye catching! :cool:

Y_M

I believe my image is self-explanatory.

Konras

Yes Y-M your right, I should think more about more correct shape. I will bend it in few ways and look what looks best. The sword was a bit twisted before it got broken so wood crackle is so width.. but probably to much Thanks for suggestion

Konras

Heres a little update:

I hope it looks more interesting now. I will not go much further, because now I am a bit afraid of overdo this I mirrored the demoman's sword so it would fir more to soldier's critical mele hit

Pogo

What's the purpose of that tape? it only seems to be holding the blade tip in place.

Galago

Loving the execution of this idea. I have to agree with Pogo, though; what exactly is that tape doing besides holding the blade tip?

Konras

It is holding the blade tip so you could deliver a powerful critical mele hit, without losing this fine cutting edge Although maybe I will add something to stabilize the wood structure

ParingKnife

I like it better without tape. You could always screw a piece of metal on to seal the wound caused by the sword to the whip. (I think the tape looks too busy and doesn't look like it would hold the frag anyways)

Khthon

The tape/strap could criss-cross the sword tip like on a flint ax head -



or have a bit of scrap metal bolted on one side to keep it stable.

Galago

Any progress?

Konras

I am glad that You asked
Actually i was having a little brake (short holiday). I managed to did something inspired from Khthon suggestion. I hope it looks better now. I plan to decide soon how it should look and finally start to texture Later i plan to make a helmet and rocket luncher, both inspired as this whip by general theme I have some ideas/references, but i will show theme with time
Anyways here is the progress

Hotdogbunker

Ooh that looks mean dude, I like where this is going.

Petachepas

I think tou can make the final part of the leather strip wider, you now, it´s TF2, it´s cartoony.

Konras

I was having a couple of free hours so I started to work on textures.
Need to finish it already and go on with next weapon, because this takes definitely to much time.

Karkasmolenklok

Looks good.

Khthon

Looks great man, now 'keep on trucking' as the hippies said in the olden times.

Konras

Ok so here is my mockup of rocket luncher. Yeah soldier probably always dreamed about commanding a tank

Handles are taken from DirectHit. Anyways I plan to change theme with belts and stuff from cavalry equipment...
like so http://www.gnl.pl/images/images_big/201_198_gd.jpg to give weapon a bit of taste

Khthon

Oh that's cool. Tanks (and helicopters) are considered the modern cavalry, too. might need something on the rear end.

Konras

And here is a mockup of helmet. Quite quick really. At the end helmet will be cracked from edge to the place when horseshoe was left after horse kick , also some inner extrude will be shown on the surface)
Of course details will be remodeled and some will be added, I just wanted to show the general idea
Agh need to speed up to finish before 28h (ahhh weekend will be sleepless I think )

Cheers

Khthon

Cutting it close, hope you can texture fast!

Hotdogbunker

Khthon wrote: »

Cutting it close, hope you can texture fast!

I gotta agree with Khthon, good luck man. Everything looks outstanding so far. I wanna see this stuff in game!

Karkasmolenklok

Perhaps a pearl-handled pistol grip trench gun to go with your patton theme?

trench gun example

armdude

I misinterpreted the way the rocket launcher was supposed to be facing. Maybe making it look a bit more like a cannon directly taken off of a tank would look better. Or at least reduce the size of the muzzle breaker.





Like that ^

Konras

Karkasmolenklok Yeah, that would be cool, I only worry about time limit... I must admit that I was quite busy this month, but I will do my best to finish 3 items before Monday :>

armdude Thanks for advice... I have one modified concept that I think will look cool, but I like the idea after placing piece of "cabin" at the end.

Anyways here is a WIP of helmet

Psyke

i know it's daft but what about a purple hearts misc for soldier?

maybe re-named to the purple hurtz or something haha

Konras

Soory Psyke but I dont know what purple hearts stands for. I googled for it and saw something like a little medal for soldier. If there will be some time left I will probably go for the boots mixed with http://amigo-konie.pl/sklep/images/img_bg/strzemiona_f.jpg

Ok here is next update

Just one belt strap to go

Psyke

The Purple Heart is a United States military decoration awarded in the name of the President to those who have been wounded or killed while serving on or after April 5, 1917 with the U.S. military



that's all :P

Karkasmolenklok

The soldier was never technically in the US Military, so naturally if he had one it would need to have a nice home-made look

Konras

Hehe Purple Heart, that would be quite fun if soldier got one, because hi is still alive... not mentioning those bazillions of deaths in game... so maybe it would make even some sense I will think about it if there will be some time left...

Ok... so here is a finished model. Sadly its 2528 tri... grr, ok, I will remove some backfacing, but even than it would be much much more... but hey maybe I will go down to Whoopee's cap polycont witch was around 1400 if I remember correct...

So optymalization, Unwraping, texturing, compiling and I will be in haven

The Scrub

I love the helmet
hope you can finish in time

and you have to remember you're replacing the Soldiers helmet which already has a lot of tris so it's OK if you have a "little too many" tris maybe load the reference model of the Soldiers helmet, check the tris then subtract the number from your own helmet and if it's around 800 then you're good to go

Konras

Yeah so it's... 1832tri (emmm so like 1032(soldier helmet) + 800tri)

Now's the Unwraping


Personally I am not to happy about this polycount... but it sadly need to stay.

Khthon

you could save tris if you made the Horseshoe bolted to the helmet rather than have a leather strap.