Workshop # 4 - Reefer

Reefer

Hey guys. Here is what I have so far on the sniper rifle. I have been working on it for about 3days total. This is also my first high poly model and I am really looking to try and finish this work shop. Also I will probably have a lot of questions and I am using Blender 2.49.2

Here are the images
Enjoi







Sorry If the images are too big.

Reefer

I have added the spot for where the bolt goes to reload the gun.



With It on the gun

j4polaris

Your rifle is looking a tad crooked there Reefer. Are you keeping an eye on your reference images?

Reefer

I was thinking that part where the bolt goes on the gun looked a bit weird. Haha

Well here's an update. I modelled the clip and part of the stock and also fixed up some things.

Solid View


Wire Frame


Heres A Render

hijak

what i see, is too many edge loops too soon so you end up with a lumpy sort of model. That said id be curious to see how it smooths, because maybe it would look fine. But my main suggestion would be to start with the bare minimum needed to make these shapes. and then add loops and make large adjustments to get it looking right. To many small adjustments, on local areas, can lead to poor contours and general flow, but you definitely understand what needs to be modeled, just need to be a bit more careful with maintaining surface continuity.

Spatz

hey reefer, i think you have done an initial fail...you should align and transform you reference picture before modeling ... in fact of that you have modeled not bad so far... i think if you adjust the ref picture you can clean up your model...

Reefer

Spatz how would I do that? That's probably a stupid question on my part but I am kind of nooby at this kind of stuff.

hijack- do you think I should just start over? I get what your saying about the lumpiness and the to many edge loops.

hijak

you will always model it better the second time, or at least that is the idea. You using blender? looks like it. Im not sure if it has any sort of smooth mesh preview options like in maya, but in general for stuff like this you are building a base that once smoothed will look like the final model. What i mean is that i would jump back and forth previewing how it acts when smoothed adding edge loops to control contour and edge hardness. but that is just one way to go about it. But in general using as little as possible to define shapes then going in and adding detail to flesh it out will yield the cleanest results. Check out the hard surface thread, " how to model dem shapes" you will see tons of examples of what Im talking about.

SyncViewS

Hi Reefer, if you like, you can get better references here.

Spatz

hope you know what i mean...rotate the photo of the gun...so that its aligned to the red line...and so your model too...and then you should see what wrong and you can clean your model...your model looks good so far ... the setup of your reference pictures is an initially important step... use the grid for clean modelling...

i hope it´s clear ...is it?

Reefer

Okay thanks you guys for the help. I should have an update either some time tonight to by the end of tomorrow for sure.
Thanks.

*EDIT*

I restarted the gun. Thank you Sync for the gun reference and also to Spatz. It's helped me a lot.

Any ways, here's the gun. I am working on the back of it right now that's why the front half doesn't have much on it.


Lemmy know what you thinkz.

Reefer

Final update for tonight.
I am kind of having troubles making the circled area look right. Right now its kind of jagged and bumpy.

But here she is.

Reefer

Here's another update. I modelled out where the magaizen goes in. I think I am finished with the body of it.

Spatz

nice ...im glad you have understand what was the point ...you see, it's much more easier and cleaner that way...and the gun looks good ...keep updating...

Reefer

Time for an update.
The barrel looks to big to me so I'm guessing I did something wrong.:\

Heres the barrel


Barrel Mount

AlexanderL

Looking much better on the second try, these workshops look like they are great for learning. Have you tried adding a subsurf modifier yet? Then you'd be able to see where you need to add controlling loops.