Gladiator Challenge - cw

cw

I should try to do something useful - so why not?

Lionhead, i think. Should be predictable and satisfying to make?

cw

im going to approach this the opposite direction than for production just to make it more fun for me hopefully!

so I will be feeling out the arty end of it and trying to loosen myself up a bit.

here's some 2 pronged approach, some sketches and a doodly sculpt.

apologies for not lion-looking-ness, I am not diving into refs this morning, just had 30 mins to play and wanted to get the ball rolling.

im leaning to brute type character, but i will crank out a coujple pages of more thumbs and see what comes out. just knocking rust off atm.

comments welcomed, even if t is early days!

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I really like that one on the far left!

cw

the elizabethan lion, it may happen!

to get familiar with what lion looks like.

Belltann

kickass pants!

cw

pff slow as treacle this week so far.

more doodling anyway, will get a base sculpt squeezed out in next couple of days I expect. need to work on design elements and refine the shape more - the mane is in some sort of hairnet i think that mught just be shyte and I will change it i think.

cw

base model for sculpt, is it too detailed? head retopo from the rough bust above.

hmm.

cw

ralusek

x_x

ironbearxl

nice proportions cw, the basemodel for the lion head and the sculpt look good so far.

cw

thanks, a bit of progress.

blobfest happening on hands atm but i was pulling my hair with some pipeline nonsense for hours today so the mood has died! I have it sorted now so I will be on form tomorrow.

Problem was max .obj importer doing some scale correction I didn't relise, gave me a lot of grief!

vcool

The thing at the back of his head reminds me of brains.

cw

bit more - want to touch every part by end of today. its annoying me!

cw

@vcool - yeah its placeholder atm, will be a patterned mane-cover of some sort, like a net. at the moment it is some generic alpha from zbrush. i'll do that in a mo actually, it does look wierd even as placeholder.

cw

some more work, and fun matcap renders. have to get my head around that stuff if we are to present in zbrush!

ironbearxl

Ooo sexy matcaps!

Andreas

Nice entry...are those CGChain matcaps? Could you host them somewhere? Been wanting them for ages but they took them down from their site.

cw

i got it from the matcap downloader on the pixologic site afaik. if not i will put them up somewhere, this afternoon some time - just off to watch clash of the titans!

cw

few more tweaks ,
time to do the clothes

Arkadius

this is the most unique idea and wild interpretation in the competition, I hope you finish. I will say that the Leg muscles are way less defined than the arm muscles, I know tights will go over the legs but I think some definition would still show through.

leslievdb

great sculpt so far,
really like the muscledefinition in the arms

cant wait to see this one finished ^^

cw

thanks arkadius. heres an update after a couple of hours tidying up bits and pieces.

wailingmonkey

stylish, cw...nice werk.

cw

thanks!

Rens

see if you can push the face a bit further, maybe around the eyes and nose, or some strokes of hair on the cheeks?

Good stuff!

cw

ta, yean needs pupils at least. maybe i can make the mouth open a bit to show teeth, may be not time to do so.

thanks rens!

cw

last touch, thanks rend and all who have commented.



bit bigger one

Rens

Thumbs up man, good work \o/

conte

solid work, dude. but anatomy on hands is weird

cw

Yeah they are still too blobby. When's the deadline? maybe I can still fix it?

cw

ok if its too late smack me but I worked a bit on the hands. added the claws too.

cheers!

cw

damn it I have failed - crit me better please folks.

vcool

I think you'd do much better if you posed the model. He stands there in basemesh pose with a rapier beside him. You should have made him sort of shifting his weight onto the rapier, or something more interesting.

The other gripe I had with it is that the lion's face could have been more menacing, or perhaps mischievous. Right now he looks rather, well, sheepish.

cw

Ah the posing. i was wondering about that. I will have to get the hang of it, but I can see that point.

I will do a v1.1 patch post-comp and stick it int he what are you working on thread. I also setup a render in max so I can make a non-zb render which will look nicer.

thanks folks!

cw

Starting to finish it off now. Learned to pose it and it was actually easier than I was expecting, and some basic renders for fun.



Good fun this, and really knocking the rust off as I go along. Feels nice.

Fur/muscles come next. Have done some cloth today including cape but not in these pics, will save for the last one.

Any more crit/comment would be great.

ENODMI

Thats cool, he's come to life! He looks like a pompous dandy! ha, really nice:) I like the render too, i need to do the same with mine

jakelear

If you don't mind me asking, how did you attack the task of posing? Transpose master?

I'm about to need to pose a zbrush sculpt with multiple subtools.

Looks awesome by the way.

cw

yeah with transpose master, it was not perfect but much more streamlined than doing it manually!

when you run it it creates a low res of all your subtools which you can pose, then you save a special file from that, and go back to your original model and load the pose which you previously saved. It worked fine. I posed things like the hands on their own afterwards as the subtools do not interact at that area.

Once i got the hang of the transpose tool again it was quite fast to do, especially as you can grab stuff with the move tool too to correct the forms as you go. Really fun to do!