HK G36C
polycounter lvl 9
Ok, trying to diversify my folio a little bit... decided to go for a hard-edge style piece, was trying to think of somethings and ended up on the HK G36C.
So a little progression.
So a little progression.
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This isn't exactly an easy gun to model, as I found out the hard way
And when you start the texturing, remember that most of the gun is actually made of hard polymers, except for the barrel and such. Here's some good reference for what these materials look like when done well
Hope this helps!
Dan K has done a very nice model and i think his comment is correct.
but this is very early and it shows that you can definitely give him some nice competition
I'm going in another style from the railing from some pics i found on pixagogo (http://www.pixagogo.com/9724354151).
Yiannisk: If if comes anywhere near close to dans i'll be a happy man
Prophecies: Yer it is, it shouldn't be there but for some reason it is
edit: Killed the lighting and just switched to reg skylight
especially cod. cod games tend to totally change the sights to make them more visible/usable on a wider range of displays, and these kinds of artistic license changes are ones you should be making based on your own judgement, not infinity ward's (and imo they 9 times out of 10 do it wrong)
thats like using STALKER for anatomy reference.
always always use the real thing or whatever you make will have all the errors of whatever you based it on.
edit: didnt notice pixagogo had already been linked. but ill leave the link here for no reason
http://www.pixagogo.com/9724354151
It's got a lot of noticable inaccuracies, you'll probably end up wanting to totally redo some components (though i guess at this stage theyre only really massed out anyway), but i wont point them out yet seeing as you only just now have a decent set of reference images.
It should allign with the Magwell (which is too broad) and the HKV Carryhandle.
You also missed that the receiver is tapering towards the top, visible at the hinge sectionnear the stock.
The frontpart of the HKV/Carryhandle should be straight aswell and not bend inwards like on you model.
The whole rifle is also mirrored, but maybe thats a thing you want?
Keep it up
i am sure with the good critique that is provided you will end up with something nice!
what harry is saying is absolutely right!
for your model you should follow actual photos of the weapon.
here's a few more.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=312241
http://www.major-malfunction.com/maj_malf_5u_042.htm
http://www.mant3z.boo.pl/asg/P1010003.JPG
and the lego version
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pythagoreanlego/3054319894/
what you can use from these screenshots though is the quality of the shaders and textures.
There are certain problems you'll run into later on in the making of this model, especially when texturing, and looking at models that other people have done can give you a good sense of how other people approached certain problems. In this case the specific thing I would take away from what IW did is that they've added enough wear and tear to make it interesting and realistic but they didn't overdue it. Also they did a very good job of making the polymers look like polymers not look like metal.
I've seen too many G36 models where people texture it like any other gun and it ends up having metal scratches everywhere. And I know personally that some of the most trouble I had in doing mine is that most of the photo reference I found were of the guns in pristine condition.
But at the very least, I would use it as a quality bar to aim for. Not trying to start a flame war, just clarifying my statement earlier
I usually spend at least a few hours learning as much as i can about whatever it is i'm modeling. this is partly because not all the information available is true in 100% of cases and partly because modeling without a fairly good knowledge of how it all goes together is like shooting a film before reading the script
Totally. People often start out doing hardsurface stuff thinking it looks simple and you don't need to do extensive study like you do with organics. Luckily our boy here was clever enough to figure out quite early that it's to be treated with all the fastidiousness one would be willing to apply to anatomy, for example.
not at all! the reality though, is that you can give advice like that and have no control over how it's interpreted, i just quickly jumped on it for that reason - and this is espescially dangerous to people just starting out modelling hard surface from life because it's a lot less forgiving in some ways.
Just watched some of your baking tuts racer so they should come in handy when i start on the bake for this one
You really shouldn't change the proportions of things unless you're going for something really stylized. Nothing looks better than a realistic, accurate model, tbh.
Though sometimes you need to push certain forms to make it appear more beefy. That's fine until you start using it as an excuse to ignore accuracy altogether.
says the guy giving me accuracy crits and being nitpicky :P. So sometimes you need to be 100 percent accurate and other times its ok to let it slide right?
2-3cm is pretty significant in a gun that's like 8cm thick
Not really "letting it slide" but rather intentionally changing shapes to look more powerful. You should certainly strive to be as accurate as possible, but sometimes shapes make the weapon look wimpy and bring the rest of it down.
Inaccurate models of real weapons bother me however guns that don't feel at all powerful is an important problem as well.
no I know what you're saying man, I was just being a lil dick-ish
Wish someone would do a virtual type get up where they take the gun and do photos from every direction so you can rotate around the whole thing to see perfectly
It's an SL8 so some things are slightly different (in fact, almost everything except the furniture is different), but it should be helpful
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=164516325
gunbroker is a wonderful resource
http://gallery.gunsofthereich.com/g36k-84-1105/G36k_01.jpg.php
click for larger. Go up a level and he's got a ton of great shots of other German guns, such as the MG42.
Presume they do different types of G36C
look there, there you see them
Thing is with the hk g63 it's so customisable that it can look completely standard from the stock version. But i definitely think i'm going to give it a front grip to improve the silhouette as well as just more practice for me.
Since this is the first hard-surface modeling i've really done the more prac i can milk out of it the better. So it's probably going to end up looking more like your ref in the end Gilgamesh.