Bridges across multiple holes

lloyd

Hello, does anybody know if there is away to fix these gaps in 3ds?



with this one i'd select the top and bottom edges and then bridge.
from here I've been cutting in the geom from the side, it soon adds up to alot of work

so is there away to bridge a gap but also fill in the width segments while its bridging?

here are some other gaps






[also is there a 3ds website/forum i could ask / help problems on instead of using this technical talk forum, i feel bad to polycount =P ]

alexl

For your first one here is how I would do it, it may not be the quickest method but I think its ok?



A little time consuming but if there is any faster way, I'd like to know too

Piflik

Sometimes you can copy existing similar pieces...like for the sphere example...select a similar set of faces, copy and rotate them to the right position, weld. But in general there is no quick way to do it. Bridge or Cap and then cut/connect the edges.

Yozora

what I usually do in these situations is select the line of edges that has the most vertices and then shift drag them using vertex snap, and then target weld the other ends of the edges.

So in your first example, select the left line of (6) edges, shift drag snap to the next top vertex, and shift drag snap onto the right side of the mesh, then target weld the bottom 2 vertices and also weld the top snapped vertices.

Not a perfect solution and doesnt work so well in some situations with more complex shapes, but generally I find its best to just plan ahead to avoid running into this in the first place (so finish the "base" shape first before inserting a bunch of extra edge loops).

PolyHertz

Their is no automated way to do this, and even if their was it'd have to be a two step process where you specify the two sides to be bridged, and then the side(s) that would cut across. I actually looked into doing something like this in Maya a few months back, and came to the conclusion that it wasn't feasable (flat surfaces are one thing, but once you start getting warped and curved surfaces it can become a real nightmare).

If someone can figure out a way to connect verts across rings while maintaining a gradual transition between each ones offset on the connected edges based on topological distance, you'll be golden. Till then, manual is the only way to go.

lloyd

Thank you helpful people! i was thinking I'd have to do it that way

Manually adding the other edges. Oh well.


Autodesk need to make a Bridge+ button which takes into account other edges. or lets me bridge to them so i could then bridge 6 or so times across a surface.


I find I'm mainly tackling the flat sided holes. as for the sphere that's a really good idea about rotation. hopefully one day that might come in handy!


Thanks once again!

mLichy

I'm sure it's possible.... I could maybe try and mess around with this... idk how easy it would be though.. I should probably get another script done that I want to do first that's easier, that might help me get setup to do this....

lloyd

if your talking scripts. make one that moved the center/pivot of an object to the selected vert/s / polygon

Move center / pivot to yellow dot

That would be good!

Its somthing i could do really easy in xsi. you'd just click the vert and then click move center to vert [it was called point in xsi but same thing!]

PolyHertz

lloyd: If you just want to move the pivot to the selected component you could copy/paste the values. Or if thats too slow try this (for use on one vert in editable poly):

varVrtNum = (polyOp.getVertSelection $.baseObject) as array
$.pivot = polyop.getVert $ varVrtNum[1]

claydough

Not sure what the Max Maya equivalents are but...
"Poly Append" the first open border example ( result 1 face/poly )
"Fill Holes" the closed border example ( result 1 face/poly per hole )

Triangulate then Quadrangulate that face/poly
This will get you at least halfway there ( divisions using border divisions )

mLichy

lloyd, that's already done in my script . I can upload it now I guess... I also added the same function for the Working Pivot. I also added alot more stuff that I think will help out ppl alot.

You can download my toolbar on my website

PolyHertz

mLichy: Whoa, didnt you just start doing maxscript recently? Nice work so far, your way ahead of me :P

Edit:

Threw together something that would work on single or multiple verts/edges/faces. It moves the actual pivot to the selected components averaged location. Run "$.pivot = curObjPos" to go back to the previous pivot at any time.

global point3 curObjPos = $.pos

if (classof $.baseObject == Editable_Poly) then
    (
    
    --Vert selection
    vrtCount = (((polyOp.getVertSelection $.baseObject) as array).count)
    if (subobjectLevel == 1 and vrtCount == 1) then
        (
        varVrtNum = (polyOp.getVertSelection $.baseObject) as array
        global point3 newPivotVec = polyop.getVert $ varVrtNum[1]
        )
    if (subobjectLevel == 1 and vrtCount >= 2) then
        (
        allVrts = (polyOp.getVertSelection $.baseObject) as array
        varVrtNum = [0,0,0]
        for eachVrt in allVrts do
            (
            buffVar = polyop.getVert $ eachVrt
            finalValx = (buffVar[1] + varVrtNum[1])
            finalValy = (buffVar[2] + varVrtNum[2])
            finalValz = (buffVar[3] + varVrtNum[3])
            varVrtNum = [finalValx,finalValy,finalValz]
            )
        varCenterA = varVrtNum[1] / allVrts.count
        varCenterB = varVrtNum[2] / allVrts.count
        varCenterC = varVrtNum[3] / allVrts.count
        global point3 newPivotVec = [varCenterA,varCenterB,varCenterC]
        )
    
    --Edge selection
    edjCount = (((polyOp.getEdgeSelection $.baseObject) as array).count)
    if (subobjectLevel == 2 and edjCount == 1) then
        (
        varEdjNum = (polyOp.getEdgeSelection $.baseObject) as array
        varEdjVrts = polyop.GetEdgeVerts $ varEdjNum[1]
        vrtOne = polyop.getVert $ varEdjVrts[1]
        vrtTwo = polyop.getVert $ varEdjVrts[2]
        finalValx = (vrtOne[1] + vrtTwo[1]) / 2
        finalValy = (vrtOne[2] + vrtTwo[2]) / 2
        finalValz = (vrtOne[3] + vrtTwo[3]) / 2
        global point3 newPivotVec = [finalValx,finalValy,finalValz]
        )
    if (subobjectLevel == 2 and edjCount >= 2) then
        (
        allEdjs = (polyOp.getEdgeSelection $.baseObject) as array
        varEdjNum = [0,0,0]
        for eachEdj in allEdjs do
            (
            varEdjVrts = polyop.GetEdgeVerts $ eachEdj
            vrtOne = polyop.getVert $ varEdjVrts[1]
            vrtTwo = polyop.getVert $ varEdjVrts[2]
            finalValx = (vrtOne[1] + vrtTwo[1] + varEdjNum[1])
            finalValy = (vrtOne[2] + vrtTwo[2] + varEdjNum[2])
            finalValz = (vrtOne[3] + vrtTwo[3] + varEdjNum[3])
            varEdjNum = [finalValx,finalValy,finalValz]
            )
        varCenterA = varEdjNum[1] / (allEdjs.count * 2)
        varCenterB = varEdjNum[2] / (allEdjs.count * 2)
        varCenterC = varEdjNum[3] / (allEdjs.count * 2)
        global point3 newPivotVec = [varCenterA,varCenterB,varCenterC]
        )
        
    --Face selection
    facCount = (((polyOp.getFaceSelection $.baseObject) as array).count)
    if (subobjectLevel == 4 and facCount == 1) then
        (
        varFacNum = (polyOp.getFaceSelection $.baseObject) as array
        global point3 newPivotVec = polyop.getSafeFaceCenter $ varFacNum[1]
        )
    if (subobjectLevel == 4 and facCount >= 2) then
        (
        allFacs = (polyOp.getFaceSelection $.baseObject) as array
        varFacNum = [0,0,0]
        for eachFac in allFacs do
            (
            buffVar = polyop.getSafeFaceCenter $ eachFac
            finalValx = (buffVar[1] + varFacNum[1])
            finalValy = (buffVar[2] + varFacNum[2])
            finalValz = (buffVar[3] + varFacNum[3])
            varFacNum = [finalValx,finalValy,finalValz]
            )
        varCenterA = varFacNum[1] / allFacs.count
        varCenterB = varFacNum[2] / allFacs.count
        varCenterC = varFacNum[3] / allFacs.count
        global point3 newPivotVec = [varCenterA,varCenterB,varCenterC]
        )
    
        
    --Object selection
    if (subobjectLevel == 0) then
        (
        global point3 newPivotVec = $.center
        )
    )


--$.pivot = curObjPos --use to get the original pivot back
$.pivot = newPivotVec --use to put the pivot at the vert selection

mLichy

heh, yeah I started a couple weeks ago..

lloyd

@mLichy


would you kindly pat your self on the back


Thanks for the script. it works! and also has some other nice fetures. im moving over from xsi and in xsi you could press + and - to add diffent levels of 'Turbo smooth' on and off.

so the turbo smoothing options in that script are very nice!


-lloyd

p.s well done for landing bungie. my dream job